A Firesign Chat
03/06/2025




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||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:32 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for March 06, 2025 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 8:00 PM and RedPillTweeny bounds out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
||||||||| It's 1:45 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| RedPillTweeny'nvOpzp - dead from jaundice
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 2:00 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| RedPillTweeny - dead from the fiddlers
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood leads Tweeny in through the front door at 8:00 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
The Firesign Chat & Show starts at 7pm Eastern/6pm Central/5pm Mountain/4pm Pacific
Tonight: EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG
plus Firesign’s “April Fool's Day collection”
a new Cat Collage “Dharma Solnit”
and David Ossman’s The Reverend Bill Barnstormer
Listen to the 256k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2 or the 16k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
This show is archived at www.kurtericson.net/firesign | Cat’s collage archive is at www.kurtericson.net/cat
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||||||||| 8:00 PM -- Tweeny left for parts unknown.   (Entry from Nick Danger's "Idiots I Have Been Paid To Follow").
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, March 06, 2025 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!" -- then he looks around at the empty room, looks at his watch, and mumbles "...am I early?"
||||||||| Catherwood sneaks into the room, and intones "Announcing 'Deputy Dang', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 8:00 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood stumbles in at 8:00 PM, dragging llanwydd by the hair and asks "Can anyone vouch for this Firehead?"
||||||||| Mutt tiptoes in around 8:00 PM, trying to avoid Catherwood because of last night's "unpleasant incident."
llanwydd: anybody here or is it just us
Mutt: Who am us, anyway?
Deputy Dang: Is it even us?
llanwydd: afk to look up solnit
Mutt: Howdy Llan, DD
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood announces: "8:00 PM and late as usual, it's Cease, just back from Elmertown."
Deputy Dang: All I found was Rebecca Solnit, a writer.
Cease: Hi all
Deputy Dang: Howdly, pardners!
llanwydd: a writer. cool
llanwydd: Hey Cat
||||||||| Catherwood walks in wearing his pyjamas, yawns, and mumbles "It's midnight here in New York city"...then he falls over and starts snoring loudly..
Cease: One of my favourite writers. I did as collage based on her latest book Orwell's Roses a while ago.
Mutt: Hey Catman
Cease: Tnis is her recent talk turned in to my collage.
Cease: Hey all
llanwydd: dharma for one
||||||||| "8:00 PM? 8:00 PM!!" says Catherwood, "Beet should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as Beet enters and sits in the comfy chair.
Beet: Hello, folks.
llanwydd: karma for all
llanwydd: Hey Beet
Beet: Hi, llan, Cease, Deputy, Mutt.
Cease: i jsut bought some beets today.
llanwydd: spasm in my right pinky. how does this happen?
Mutt: Since Tween is not here … YoBeet!
Cease: doing a lot of interesteing culinary thinkning in prep for upcoming vegas trip
llanwydd: happiness is a muscle spasm - charles schultz
Beet: Put some sour cream on them, Cease. Delicious.
Cease: lol lla
Cease: my play is called Smetana, the Ukrainian word for sour cream
Cease: llan plays Einstein in my play
llanwydd: I know ukrainian cuisine somewhat
Cease: producer Doc Technical seems to have vanished. maybe Putin bought him
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "No, no my boy, you're confused. The horizon's moving up!"
llanwydd: if we ever hear your new play. heres hoping
Cease: i sent a facebook message to Lili,his partner. I asked if Doc was holding out for my minerals?
llanwydd: lol
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "You people are soooooo superstitious!"
Beet: lol
Mutt: A low-level-Queens’-Style shakedown
Cease: my new play is about Weimar. Just got a book about it today.
Beet: great album
Deputy Dang: This one can be viewed on YouTube as a full performance, not just a reading of the material.
Cease: thus, lots of german voices needed. you'rfe the Man, LLan.
Cease: tis, beet
llanwydd: looking forward to it, cease
Cease: the empress of japan is hello kitty. fun writing that. also my daughter Monique Ishikawa if Primie Minister of Canada for a strange reason.
Cease: Germany sides with Spain and kicks Franco back to Morroco, where he must learn Arabic to eat
llanwydd: poor franny
Mutt: Or, battle valiantly to remain dead
Cease: almost as strange a play as EYK
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I have proof I've been to ancient Greece, look at this grape!"
Cease: so strange or go home
Cease: go
||||||||| Mutt leaves to catch the 8:00 PM train to Elmertown.
llanwydd: after I started listening to Coast to Coast AM for a while I understood EYKIW a little better
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 8:00 PM and Mutt bounds out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
llanwydd: hmm. maybe not
llanwydd: but I thought I did
llanwydd: Hey Mutt
Cease: goodbye and hello mutt
Cease: where's jeff?
llanwydd: but I got the reference to casteneda right away
Deputy Dang: Mutt left already?
Mutt: Hey. I thought “go” was a command, so I went
Cease: it's a game, in japan
llanwydd: lol.
Mutt: You’ll have to adk Bud
llanwydd: go can actually mean go in
Mutt: True dat. Or go out
Cease: also the number 5 in japanese
llanwydd: interesting
Mutt: I saw the number five in Japanese …
llanwydd: another interesting number is kumi na mbili. twenty something in swahili
llanwydd: go means five. no means of
Mutt: Sto Odin is one hundred one in Russian
Mutt: I think
llanwydd: the french number for a thousand is very tasty
Cease: follow in your books and learn your next 3 words in russian: dressing, roulette, border
llanwydd: cool
Mutt: Cordwainer Smith played sith numbers as names a lot
Mutt: With
Deputy Dang: pyramid pushover paste?
Cease: true, llan
Beet: This part is done really well.
Cease: i have wanted to go inside the great pyramid since I was 8
Beet: Me too
Cease: maybe this year
Mutt: Don Brouhaha
Deputy Dang: I agree this part is beautiful.
Cease: tis
llanwydd: follow in your books and learn three new words in spanish: rice, omellette, fly
Cease: never a fan of castenada, but the firesign had much fun with him
Mutt: Carlos Castaneda meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Cease: lol
Mutt: Seriously
llanwydd: I was part of a kind of casteneda fan club in high school
llanwydd: we used to pronounce it CAHST a NAH da
Beet: I was very religious about Castaneda's books.
Mutt: And we are talking Kevin McCarthy Invasion, not Donald Sutherland Invasion
llanwydd: YOURE NEXT
Mutt: AAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!
llanwydd: the best thing about casteneda was the front cover illustrations
llanwydd: almost made you believe in don juan
Beet: Yep.
Mutt: Yes. They were compelling
llanwydd: I was into surrealist paintings, dali, magritte
llanwydd: especially magreitte
Mutt: The cover for Just Folks - I love the Magritte angle
llanwydd: yes. I had already seen that painting when the album came out
Mutt: Fire, water, air, earth
llanwydd: roger dean
Cease: saw some great magritte in madrid
llanwydd: cool
Deputy Dang: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5b97e3c7fcf7fdc41d0b94e0/1579395052971-SHJUER6SESC7QY5B5VEX/a2064394546_16.jpg?format=500w
llanwydd: thanks dang
Cease: i wonder if, in my life time, we'll encounter aliens for real. not obscurely.
Mutt: I’d buy that painting if I could.
llanwydd: if we ever got a visit from aliens they would have to be a very superior race
Deputy Dang: I doubt we'll encounter live ones, but it seems there is building evidence that life itself is likely to have formed in other parts of the universe.
Deputy Dang: I enjoyed this part of the video performance.
Cease: i thnk i was in 4th grade when i encoiuntered the book war of the worlds and thoughrt it was real
Deputy Dang: I also enjoy the repeated misdirection with the names.
Mutt: It is a real book
Deputy Dang: +1 Mutt
Cease: this was shortly after sputnik so we were all looking up
Cease: my play Red Shift includes a bit of WOW, the Orson Welles/Orson Ossman production
Mutt: I enjoyed Ted Shift very much. Ta!
Mutt: Red
Cease: my goal for next week's show is that play Red Shift along with the last part of Dharma Solnit
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "There's one crawling up my leg!"
Mutt: Too stoned to type
Cease: i'm doing my best to catch up, mutt.
Mutt: It’s a race!
Cease: i took a week off, and slowly geting there now
Cease: need to clean up before vegas trip, which will be a trip.
Mutt: I need to but probably won’t
Cease: first time i brought hunter thompson's vegas book. this trip i'm taking his campaign 72 book.
Mutt: It’s great. But then I love most of shat he srote.
Cease: heard an intertesting interview with don johnson yesrterday, on wtf. friend and neighboutr of thompson
Cease: indeed, mutt
Mutt: Shat. I typed shat
llanwydd: freudian slip, mutt?
Beet: Did anyone see Bill Murray on Joe Rogan? He talked alot about Hunter Thonpson.
Cease: no
Beet: Thompson
llanwydd: not very familiar with rogan
Cease: never seen or heard rogan
Beet: Most popular podcast.
Mutt: I know of him but have never listened
Cease: i know. but big trumper. i choose to avoid
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I think we're all Bozos on this bus."
Mutt: And, yes, Llan ;)
llanwydd: rogan lerloy at his rogan again
Deputy Dang: I listened to rogan for awhile, mostly his episodes with some famous psychedelic mushroom scientist. After that, I decided I didn't have 3-4 hours of every day to listen to one person.
llanwydd: trump is the ultimate imperialist in american history
llanwydd: started with new york city
llanwydd: tomorrow the world
Deputy Dang: Well, well... what the hell!
llanwydd: sometimes I listen to glen beck for three hours. only because its the only station that comes in clearly and I cant get out of bed
llanwydd: doesnt happen often
llanwydd: I guess Im a masochist
Cease: can't you listen to good stuff on your phone? I do.
Cease: le show, maron, others
llanwydd: I dont like to wear down the battery
Cease: my plays
Cease: plug in
Deputy Dang: tune in
Beet: The last man on earth - Happy Harry
llanwydd: never thought of that
llanwydd: and drop off
Cease: no battery needed.
llanwydd: I do listen to stuff on youtube while I sleep but sometimes the computer freezes
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "And you can believe me - because I never lie, and I'm always right."
Cease: when i met proc in 97? he gave me a cassette with these pieces on them.
llanwydd: really cool
Cease: t done them for some radio thing in april. i met him in i thnk august
Beet: Haven't heard them before.
Cease: really?
llanwydd: great album
Deputy Dang: ewe two
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Back from the Shadows again."
Deputy Dang: lolololololol
Cease: there is so much firesign stuff, tween and i could play it here forever, as that word relaesd to our mortalities
Deputy Dang: Almost every week I hear some FT I have never heard before.
llanwydd: no kidding dang
llanwydd: well I guess I do too
Cease: i have been immersed in firesign almost since the begininng of firesign (67) and contintue to be enlightened
llanwydd: I would love to hear more of their stage stuff from that period
Cease: not necessarily, llan
llanwydd: the stuff I have heard is brilliant
Cease: because you heard the briliant srtuff. i was there. it wasn't all that briliant
Cease: they sucked a lot.
Deputy Dang: survival of the fittest
llanwydd: I cannot agree. that goon show style with all the brilliant puns
llanwydd: well we all have to start somewhere, cat
Cease: no llan, you know little of their vasrtness, but theri best mademe want to be a better playhweirtght
Cease: ok llan, but i had been writng plays since 59 and was told i was really good. i thought firesing was a level abocve me, but there were steps
llanwydd: they were finding their footing in those days
Cease: some going up, some going down.
Cease: indeed, llan
Mutt: I think that’s why they never took off in visual media - they weren’t really best suited to live visual performers
Mutt: Performances
llanwydd: I thought it was very clever of them to take a different approach in every medium
Cease: well...
llanwydd: their radio show was improvisational, their stage shows were scripted and their albums were ultra-scripted
Cease: mor3e gravitational, eh?
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 1 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Mutt: Im not judging. Just as someone who saw them live many times. They lacked a certain something as a visual group
Deputy Dang: Someone could still convert the albums into movies.
Cease: in recent interveiw ossman says, we did radio, tv, movies so the next was disneyland
Cease: Maybe now dang, with AI.
Cease: this is from my play Red Shift
llanwydd: I saw them live once. 1981. the show was fascinating
Deputy Dang: I mean with different actors performing, no AI needed.
Cease: they were all Actors and they loved it
Cease: sasw some ai of the bees and the spiders as a blues song and it was great
llanwydd: well, visually, I thought they were much better on stage than in movies and tv
Mutt: Yes. Stage was much better. My point was about tv and film
Beet: I would have loved to have seen them live.
Cease: this is form my new p,lay. is this you, llan?
llanwydd: no, cat
Cease: sounds like you, llan
Cease: the russian general
llanwydd: yes I was the russian general
Deputy Dang: I think I'm closest to what Mutt is saying. For all their wonderful production values in audio, they didn't produce at that level visually. I mean no disrespect to their visual performances; I'm just contrasting it with the audio.
Cease: indeed, dang
Mutt: That’s it, DD.
llanwydd: that is me
Cease: and they admit it. they're audio geniuses, visally, not so much
Mutt: I think TV was a pip dream for them
llanwydd: I thought my performance there was pretty good
llanwydd: if I may say so
llanwydd: thanks for including that in the collage
Mutt: Llan has spoken!
Cease: proc acted in Many movies and I know Bergman was way into making movied too, but they opened up audio possibilties, but only coasted on the work of others, visually.
Cease: llan, i try and create radsio plays, and you help me. so does tween, firesigns, others
Cease: i am lucky for that
Mutt: They were vaudevillians on stage. Not suited to tv or film, really
Cease: this is elayne, the founder of this chat. 1996
Beet: This is very interesting.
llanwydd: well you have a definite talent for casting
llanwydd: smile emoji
Beet: Well, got to go. This was fun. Nice to see everyone. Have a nice night. See you next week. G'Nite.
Cease: by beet
llanwydd: have a great week, Beet
Mutt: See you, Lonsesome!
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "What you don't mean won't hurt you."
llanwydd: you have a great talent for writing too, cat
Cease: thank you, llan. i do my best. it's fun too
Deputy Dang: G'nite, Beet!
Mutt: Well, I must go where the bozos go. Be well everyone and thanks!
||||||||| Mutt leaves to catch the 8:00 PM train to Elmertown.
Cease: by mutt
Cease: we shrink
Cease: anyone else here?
Deputy Dang: I'm around here somewhere.
Cease: tghis is so beautiful
llanwydd: nobody but us fireheads
Cease: i hope someone hears thise. i think solnit is wondrous
Cease: her voice and her ideas
llanwydd: is she contemporary?
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Don't worry about the flies, we won't weigh 'em!"
Cease: she was at i think this same place in sanfa fe right aftr the dem convention, and her speech avout harfr'sspeech inspried me to go to santa fe in oct.
Cease: a young (60) SF woman who's written a lot of books. i'd lvoe to meet her,
Deputy Dang: I laughed so hard when I heard FT teaching Turkish!
Cease: allresdy a big influence on me. her book about the 06 SF earthquake nicluence my play CAST
llanwydd: catherwood, get Solnit a pulitzer prize
||||||||| Catherwood gets solnit a pulitzer prize.
llanwydd: taffee
llanwydd: coffee
Cease: hi llan
llanwydd: when I managed a middle eastern restaurant we served turkish coffee
Cease: what is thati i plan to go to trukey at the end of the year
llanwydd: its not percolated
Cease: i don t like coffee at all
Cease: tea for me
llanwydd: I can usually take or leave it
llanwydd: I like tea as well
Cease: i have had coffee full of booze, like b52 coffee i could enjoy, but basic coffee no
Cease: tghis is kerouacs visoins of neal and the 3 stooges, which is the main inflouene on my play Neal Amid
llanwydd: three stooges. LOL
llanwydd: I never noticed the stooges in neal amid
Cease: because they're not there, llan.
llanwydd: good reason
llanwydd: I used to listen to that stoned
llanwydd: quite a trip in itself
Cease: but the kerouac recording of Neal and the 3 Stooges opened up the possibilitly of Neal Amid, eh"
Cease: i have verfy rareely been here unstoned
llanwydd: lucky
llanwydd: easy to get where you are
Cease: willbe in vegas in 2 weeks so not here.
Cease: i may connecrt in airport wifi but not sure
llanwydd: most unusual place I have joined the chat from was a hostel in new york city
Cease: this chart is 40 years old , eh
llanwydd: I was in nyc to audition for the american drama academy
llanwydd: was not accepted
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "More coffee, warden?"
Cease: have you made a career out of acting?
llanwydd: sort of
llanwydd: Love this skit
llanwydd: or american academy of dramatic arts or some similar name
llanwydd: she is really puting him on the spot
llanwydd: defygtuhyijuiokjhgfdfugbiutfd
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "...And no Buddhist writers either!"
Cease: i love her, she may nevfer know i ewxisrt
llanwydd: lol
Deputy Dang: That was really good, Cat. I'll have to read one/some of her books.
Cease: thar'a true of many relartionships. i trhought i'd be happily married foirever but thqtr was notr the casew
llanwydd: you and fumiyo are not longer married? I had no idea
Deputy Dang: I did not realize the Creationism Museum is different from the Ark Encounter.
llanwydd: I should not have commented. sorry
Cease: a liminal state, as it were
Cease: life is never not strange
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "It's a beautiful car friends, with doors to match!"
llanwydd: oh, there is a real creationism museum. must be interesting
Cease: maybe yes, maybe no
llanwydd: I think I vaguely remember reading about the ark encounter
llanwydd: I watched parts of the silent film noahs ark last night
Deputy Dang: I lived in Dayton when it was being built. Quite a fiasco. Ken Ham at times claimed it was a religious thing to avoid taxes and at other times a commercial thing so he could get permits based on prospected tourism income.
llanwydd: yeah he got in some trouble didnt he?
Deputy Dang: not a bit. that's the fiasco part.
llanwydd: lol
Deputy Dang: Full disclosure: it's been more than a decade, so I might be misremembering part, including him getting in trouble.
Cease: dayton ohio? i' ve never been to ohio, but have freinds form there. big fano of joe walsh and thge pretenddersw
llanwydd: I ended up there once. I was on my way to daytona from california and when I got to dayton I said why drive another thousance miles for the extra vowel so I stayed in dayton
llanwydd: Im still there
Deputy Dang: Yes, Ohio. Dayton is less than an hour's drive to Cincinnati, where Ken Ham's empire is. (Technically, it might be in Kentucky, but technically, part of Cincinnati Ohio is in Kentucky.)
llanwydd: just joking. I am in florida
Cease: this is the guy who wrote the firesing book.
Cease: it's not as good as it should have been. alas
Cease: i'm in north vancouver butg wil be in vegas next week
llanwydd: I have heard little or nothing about ken ham since the twentieth century
Cease: bruicew snyder the new firesign visual guy is in flordida
llanwydd: yeah you really like the food in vegas, dont you , cat?
Cease: that's why i go there, llan. it introduces me to a better universe.
Cease: i have never gambled, nor attendeed of their shows. i go there onoly for food
llanwydd: cool
Cease: i attian a higger plain
Cease: maybe my last trip there. canadsa is going to war wirh your country now
llanwydd: I have never set foot in a casino. a friend of mine is trying to get me to try it once in my life, though
llanwydd: like I said, trump is an imperialist. he wants greenland, he wants mexico, he propbably wants canada
Deputy Dang: I haven't been to any casino in Florida. I've been to several in Las Vegas and Laughlin, and one in Ohio.
Cease: very stoned, i see the lights of the casinos as trippy, but i go thtere to eat thingsw that take me to a better world
llanwydd: he had to rename the gulf of mexico. shows imperialist tendancies
Cease: he wants canada's minerals. he wont get them
llanwydd: are there casinos in florida? I forgot
Cease: nor ukrakine
llanwydd: great fun. thanks Cat and Tween
Deputy Dang: I hope... well... I won't say what I hope. But it includes him not getting Canadian or Ukranian minerals.
Cease: let
Cease: let's talk later aftrer i get bsack from vegasm llanb
Deputy Dang: G'nite all. I'll really want to see you next week.
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
llanwydd: george
llanwydd: yeah, lets, cat
||||||||| "Hey Deputy Dang!" ... Deputy Dang turns, and sees Bradshaw approching with the handcuffs, and is dragged away, screaming "it's only 8:00 PM, I don't have to go yet!"...
llanwydd: nite everybody
Cease: off we fly
||||||||| At 8:00 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, llanwydd!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 3 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 3:30 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Beet - dead from intense demonic possession
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| It's 3:45 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Cease - dead from pneumonia
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:31 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."


The Evening's Participants:
Beet
Cease
Deputy Dang
llanwydd
Mutt
URL References:
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2
www.kurtericson.net/cat
www.kurtericson.net/firesign
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Tiny Dr. Tim
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And, "The Home Team"