Weekly Firesign Chat Cheese Log

A Firesign Chat
11/28/2024

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||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:32 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for November 28, 2024 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood stumbles in at 8:00 PM, dragging Tweeny by one foot and asks "Can anyone vouch for this Yahoo ™?"
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
The Firesign Chat & Show starts at 7pm Eastern/6pm Central/5pm Mountain/4pm Pacific
Tonight: THANKSGIVING SHOW
A replay of November 28, 2019
Cat Collages “Nothing But Indians-2”, A Shadow Moves” and “Soyal Plus”
Listen to the 256k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2 or the 16k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
This show is archived at www.kurtericson.net/firesign | Cat’s collage archive is at www.kurtericson.net/cat'
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||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, November 28, 2024 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!"
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||||||||| "8:00 PM? 8:00 PM!!" says Catherwood, "Deputy Dang should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as Deputy Dang enters and sits at the bar.
Tweeny: Howdy, Deputy
||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and llanwydd falls out at 8:00 PM.
llanwydd: happy thanksgiving
Tweeny: Pass the Indian please, llan
llanwydd: indians are not what they used to be
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Tweeny! Howdy, llanwydd!
llanwydd: these days most of them are named ravi or rajiv
||||||||| Catherwood ushers Cease in through the front door at 8:00 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
Deputy Dang: What about the elevator boy?
llanwydd: pass the swami please
||||||||| Catherwood walks in wearing his pyjamas, yawns, and mumbles "It's midnight here in New York city"...then he falls over and starts snoring loudly..
llanwydd: Hi Cat
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Cease!
Cease: Hey, Llan. Dang. Tween. What are we listening?
llanwydd: nothing but indians
Tweeny: OOPS Pat is playing a Roadkill Show
Tweeny: I'll text him
Cease: early in their career, the Firesign LOVED doing "Indian" accents.
Deputy Dang: It's not the worst disaster in the scheme of things.
Cease: yes this is the Tues show. bummer.
Cease: Are we having more problems this year than ever before?
Tweeny: Pat'll fix it
Cease: i mean with the broadcasts
Cease: hope so, Tween
Cease: i enjoy roy orbison, but not here and now
llanwydd: you got it
llanwydd: we had a lot of orbison on the playlist when I was a dj
Cease: great voice
Cease: amazingt mix with the wilburys
Tweeny: indeed, Cease
llanwydd: willburys were great
Cease: no you won't, tweeny
Cease: we're still stuck in roadkill land
Tweeny: working on it
Cease: not that's a problem now
Cease: you folks know anything about crowley? One weird dude
Cease: i hate onion rings
Deputy Dang: This sounds familiar. Was I listening in 2019?
llanwydd: crowley was weird for a living
Tweeny: FST show is up now :)
||||||||| Catherwood stumbles in and announces "Presenting 'Not Ed', just granted probation at 8:00 PM", then leaves hurriedly.
llanwydd: Hi Not Ed
Not Ed: Waz real Fireheads!
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Direct readout - Doctor Memory."
Tweeny: Hey Not Ed
Cease: bergman tells a tale of crowley biting Isadora Duncan, and sending her to the hospital from his toxic teeth.
llanwydd: never thought to ask this before but if you are not ed, who are you?
Cease: Hi Not
Not Ed: All I know is he's not Joe, and I yam what I yam.
llanwydd: how would bergman know this?
Not Ed: Hey C
llanwydd: this is not common knowledge
Not Ed: Hey Tweeny
llanwydd: lol NE
Not Ed: DDang?
Not Ed: Hope they get to Hopi
llanwydd: hopi springs eternal
Not Ed: Message from the Hopi elders (quoted by PA and I think DO from time to time) https://artistic.umn.edu/we-are-ones-weve-been-waiting-prophecy-made-hopi-elders
Cease: Hoppity Hop
Not Ed: you bet llan
Tweeny: Sorry folks, the scheduling automation got messed up, but we're on track now :)
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "How does he make his voice do that?"
Cease: we are indeed. thanks for taking care of this, Tween
Not Ed: PA - "banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary" famously
Not Ed: Yeah Tanx Tweener!
Cease: this was the world of 1967. i recorded this at the time. very heavy stuff
Not Ed: cool
Cease: 67 was a heavy year for me.went to Expo 67 with my uncle who designed one of its pavillions.
Tweeny: kewl
Not Ed: You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell the people that this is the Hour. And there are things to be considered… Where are you living? What are you doing? What are your relationships? Are you in right relation? Where is your water? Know your garden. It is time to speak your truth. Create your community. Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for your leader. Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, “This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the sh
Cease: Firesign were Way into that, Not. They're in a new book about the Hopi
Not Ed: The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water. And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey come to a halt. The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word ’struggle’ from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. --Hopi Elders' Prophecy, June 8, 2000
llanwydd: sounds like shakespeare meets casteneda
Not Ed: I forget which piece or skit Phil A quotes this in.
Not Ed: Might be one of the versions of the indian piece. Czech me on that though.
Cease: lol llan
Not Ed: indeed llan
Not Ed: It's beautiful
Cease: a sign
Not Ed: Btw, Happy Turkey Day all! Say thank you! - "Gratitude may help you live longer" (Harvard Health) https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/gratitude-may-help-you-live-longer
Cease: Always a good idea, Not.
Cease: I'm thiniking of going to
Cease: Tureky next year. Bergman loved the country.
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Swell pizza!"
llanwydd: lol
Not Ed: catherwood bring everyone a steamy wedge of swell pizza
||||||||| Catherwood gives everyone a steamy wedge of swell pizza.
llanwydd: three new words in turkish...taffee...coffee...istanbul
Not Ed: gobble gobble
Not Ed: I love this bit
Not Ed: who doesn't?
Cease: this was their introduction. the first cut of their first album. here's who we are, folks. almost imortal
Not Ed: Minnesota - I was still in grade school - I remember first listening to this with my dad and my cousin --from LA!! He was a hippie of course - my dad called him "Jesus" land also "aunt Dick" lol they were good friends as kids - Dick brought Electrician into our lives - quite a switch from Bob Newhart and Cosby
Cease: indeed
Cease: When Proc met George Harrison, George said to him, "Civiilzation, HO!"
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Let's stand him on his head!"
Not Ed: actually - junior high not grade school oops
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "What about my pickle?"
Not Ed: i "regressed" too far!
Cease: My new play is hopefully out soon. Act 1 Scene 1 features George Harrison.
Not Ed: nice can't wait
Cease: Not, retressed too far.My play Neal
Not Ed: ever see Scorsese's Harrison doc? it's pretty good
Cease: Amid (with Phila Austin as Neal) featured Neal in a time machine going back too far
Not Ed: indeedy
Cease: yes i did, not.
Not Ed: I'm not sure which side I like better - Waiting for... is a GREAT record
Not Ed: it didn't?
Not Ed: heehee kiddin'
Cease: this is from austin's mother, a drama teacher, turning child phil onto this kind of production.
Not Ed: what a debut!
Not Ed: is it
Not Ed: cool
Cease: not, everuy firesign album has its own greatness.
Cease: a debut in the days of sgt pepper is asking a lot, eh? yet there was a vast outpouring of wonderful stuff i those days
Not Ed: not a clunker in the bunch
llanwydd: very true
Cease: i dont think firesign could have arisen in england. python if of england, firesign is of amerca
Cease: no "indians" in england, eh?
Tweeny: They came at comedy from different angles, but interestly they were both inspired by The Goon Show
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "At your cervix."
Not Ed: there's a group called Rogue Valley - released four albun in a year as their debut - every one of them, a jewel --- I hadn't heard a debut on that order since probably the Beatles
Not Ed: Look em up
||||||||| At 8:00 PM, Cease vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
||||||||| Catherwood enters with Cease close behind, mutters something about disrupting his 8:00 PM tree-stunting plans, and dashes off to the anteroom.
Not Ed: their :seasons :quadrilogy"
Not Ed: "quadrilogy" ; )
Cease: Will do, Not
Not Ed: groovy
Cease: The Firesign consider their first 4 albums a quadrology
Not Ed: wait who's talking right now?
Not Ed: oh interesting I could see that
Cease: this is craig carpenter, more of a scammer than Firesign were aware of at the time.
Not Ed: ahh thanks
Not Ed: that's too bad
Cease: he was a kind of Rasputin to Bergman's Czar NIcholas. A bad dude. Look him up.
Cease: Did you hear the Steve Alleni interview with the guys? 1990 NPR I think.
llanwydd: did not hear that
llanwydd: and I used to be an npr addict
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Stop torturing me Ethyl!"
Cease: I recorded it off the air from the Seatle NPR station. Steve Allen, an enemy of astrology, asked Pete if he was still into it, and Pete answered that his affair with pseudo-science ended long ago, Steve was relieved
llanwydd: interesting
Not Ed: rem when NPR refused to air this
llanwydd: despite their collective name, I would never have thought that they took it seriously
Not Ed: they said it was "incomprehensible"
llanwydd: hmm
Tweeny: Not Ed: rem when NPR refused to air this << Too confusing lol
Tweeny: yy
Not Ed: I recall Phil A talking about it - maybe to the press or his blog or a press release ....hmm
Not Ed: right Tweener
Not Ed: I think it's on the Firesign NPR CD though
Tweeny: Yes it is Not Ed
Not Ed: cool ya
Cease: You still here, Dang?
Tweeny: All Things Firesign - https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=atf
Cease: Love. And commerce.
llanwydd: I used to have that cd. havent seen it around lately
Not Ed: always loved the native american elements and lore present in Northern Exposure, some of the poetry came in too
Not Ed: right T, that's the one - I think I have....yikes, somewhere
Cease: indeed, not
Not Ed: good stuff
Not Ed: I grew up in MN - very close to indians - I have wonderful stories
Tweeny: llanwydd: I used to have that cd. havent seen it around lately << It's not available at the new Firesign store :/
Not Ed: a couple of different tribes there
Not Ed: thanks for checking T
Cease: MN is Minnesota? Would that be the Chippewa?
Deputy Dang: I'm listening but not watching the chat. Sorry for that.
Not Ed: AIM, Dennis Banks, Russell Means...the FBI - heavy stuff up there - the last stand
Cease: be groovy, Dang
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 1 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Not Ed: hey DDang waz real
Not Ed: Happy T-day
Deputy Dang: Thank you for that! :-)
Not Ed: ghosts can like age you 20 years if you see one and it sees you brrr
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Won't spurt like the hosers!"
Cease: it's a job, putting this stuff togethr, but a great job
Not Ed: well we appreciate it - these are artifacts of quality - right alongside the records
Deputy Dang: I concur.
Cease: thank you
Cease: i am quoting neruda in my new blog post. "you can crush the flowerfs, but you can't stop he spring"
Not Ed: I liked that one C
Not Ed: still here
Not Ed: Ague lol
Not Ed: ahh i see
Not Ed: have you guys seen "We Shall Remain"? gooood PBS history doc - maybe 4 parts
Not Ed: Native American history
Deputy Dang: I haven't.
Not Ed: definitely worth a watch
Not Ed: it covers everything all the way up to the standoff in So Dak,
Not Ed: South Dakota
Not Ed: modern times - in the 70's
Not Ed: actually haha 70's is like vintage now
Not Ed: isn't that strange
Not Ed: anyway....
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "And you can believe me - because I never lie, and I'm always right."
Cease: isnt't this amazing writing?
Deputy Dang: I am mermerized. I keep asking myself if it's prose or poetry.
Cease: Fuck, Phil Austin could write!
Not Ed: indeed
Cease: all of them
Not Ed: wish he could have recoded some of the stuff on his blog - which was terrific
Not Ed: recorded, sorry
Cease: he did what he did,eh?
llanwydd: swdefgthyuikjihgyfrttrfyguhio
Cease: his opportunite, and ossman's too, were not that happning, commercially.
Cease: Elayne, her then husband and I were visitoing Ossman in 1995 and he'd jus gotten off the phonewith publishgers he was tring to sell nhis books to
Not Ed: lol
Cease: They were too young to know of Firesign
Not Ed: (listening)
Cease: Wite as terror
Cease: and I smoked and I smoked
Not Ed: turkey>
Not Ed: >
Not Ed: ?
Not Ed: cabt tybe
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Not Ed: catherwood bring everyone a copy of leather thighs
||||||||| Catherwood gives everyone a copy of leather thighs.
Not Ed: (profusely illustrated)
Cease: i wonder what Truman Capote thought of Firesigns' appropriation of him?
llanwydd: you really think they were trying to approximate capote?
llanwydd: I didnt get that impression but I have never read capote
Not Ed: i saw the movie
Cease: Def. Naked thighs. Not question. Some of his stuff is pretty good but his book about a murder inspried the Firesign bit.
Not Ed: what was that movie called
Not Ed: dick and perry story
Not Ed: nice Cat!
Deputy Dang: Impressive! Very nice, Cat!
Not Ed: the two thrill killers
Not Ed: ahh -- In Cold Blood
Not Ed: And Breakfast at Tiffany's -- it's all coming back to me now ; )
Not Ed: Ahh there we go!
Not Ed: So beautiful - one of my favorite pieces ever
Not Ed: that was it
Not Ed: One World
Not Ed: Earth is the Holyland
Deputy Dang: For all practical purposes, Earth is the OnlyLand
Not Ed: yepsk, zactly
Cease: Yeah. we wil not live lnog enough to see a human population on any other planet,though I hope
Cease: Elon does move to Mars
Not Ed: AI will take us there
Cease: nah
Not Ed: agree C lol
Tweeny: Stephen Hawking did say that he thought it was necessary to colonize other planets to preserve because sooner or later there would be an even that might destroy Earth
Not Ed: it's too complex otherwise (to say the least)
Tweeny: *preserve humanity
Not Ed: i meant i agree - send Elon to Mars
Tweeny: Love Michael Martin Murphy, worked with his band on several occasions
Cease: maybe hundreds of years from now, humans will colonize mars, but very distant future, that
Deputy Dang: I don't think we'll live long enough to see any human on Mars.
Tweeny: Elon has T-shirts which say 'Colonize Mars' lol
Cease: so yo told us, tween. great song.
Deputy Dang: I Call The Wind Mariah
Not Ed: sans spacesuit of course
Tweeny: 2025 will be interesting with Elon in the White House
llanwydd: perhaps the international space station will expand over the years and become a space city
Not Ed: watch the race in place on their hobby horses
llanwydd: if it gets big enough the earth wont be necessary
Not Ed: them
Cease: little city i space, peter stenshoels grear radio show from the early 90s
Tweeny: No new shows next week folks, my music computer is broke
Tweeny: Hopefully will have it fixed soon
llanwydd: oh? I thought the idea was mine
llanwydd: sorry to hear that tweeny
Tweeny: hopefully an easy fix replacing the video card
Not Ed: I asked ChatGTP when, if possible, self-aware creative AI would emerge - it said never or 30 years - if possible, then about 30 years
Tweeny attended the Calgary Stampeed in the 60s
Tweeny: after the Montreal World's Fair if I recall correctly
Cease: i'll be 103 in 30 years or more likely, dead whateve
Cease: great that you saw that, tween
Tweeny: My Mom lived to 104 Cease, anything's possible :)
Cease: I just try to iive to tomorrow
Tweeny: Give yourself a reason to stick aound that long :)
Tweeny: *around
llanwydd: 103 is the new 70
Cease: lol
Tweeny: Nice collage work, Cease, thanks
Not Ed: at that point religious folks will argue if AI thinks for itself and understands itself, seeks to protect itself and survive, desires relationships, etc, would it have a soul - can't wait for that one
Cease: my wife asked me the other day, how long i expected to live. as long as possible
Not Ed: I'm not religious in that way but many will wonder
Cease: we are in our 70s and hope to reach our 80s, but you never know
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
llanwydd: well I am heading out. thanks again tween and cat for another great show.
Cease: I remember pink and gray socks, late 50s tihng
Cease: by llan
||||||||| "8:00 PM? I'm late!" exclaims llanwydd, who then scurries out through the french doors and down through the garden.
Cease: what is this, tween?
Tweeny: You tell me
Tweeny: It's your collage, right?
Deputy Dang: The Plus part of "Soyal Plus"?
Tweeny: Pat is playing the whole show that didn't start on time
Tweeny: "Sorry about that, Chief...."
Deputy Dang: Maxwell Smart?
Tweeny: yep :)
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I have proof I've been to ancient Greece, look at this grape!"
Not Ed: Great stuff guys!
Not Ed: Happy T-Day!
Deputy Dang: It's nice they let it play past 9pm.
Deputy Dang: (local time)
Not Ed: Fun fact to know and tell: the actual protons in the hydrogen that makes up most of your body (and nearly everything else) were created within the first 3 minutes of the big bang - protons don't decay
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Mister policeman, what makes America great?"
Tweeny: Until last time, again...
Deputy Dang: No wonder I feel so old...
||||||||| 8:00 PM -- Tweeny left for parts unknown. (Entry from Nick Danger's "Idiots I Have Been Paid To Follow").
Not Ed: Next time all - promise!
Deputy Dang: Thanks Cat! I'll be back next week!
Deputy Dang: Wait... I didn't know there were protons in the first 3 minutes. I thought it was still all energy. Oh well. I wasn't there. ;-)
||||||||| Around 8:00 PM, Deputy Dang walks off into the sunset...
||||||||| It's 2:15 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Cease - dead from Covid 19
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| It's 2:30 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Not Ed - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:31 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."

The Evening's Participants:
Cease
Deputy Dang
llanwydd
Not Ed
Tweeny

URL References:
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2
www.kurtericson.net/cat
www.kurtericson.net/firesign
https://artistic.umn.edu/we-are-ones-weve-been-waiting-prophecy-made-hopi-elders
https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=atf
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/gratitude-may-help-you-live-longer