A Firesign Chat
10/17/2024




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||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:32 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for October 17, 2024 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood escorts Tweeny in through the front door at 8:00 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
The Firesign Chat & Show starts at 7pm Eastern/6pm Central/5pm Mountain/4pm Pacific
Tonight: HOW CAN YOU BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE WHEN YOU’RE NOT ANYWHERE AT ALL
plus EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG
and from the BOX OF DANGER collection
“The Case Of The Missing Shoe”
Listen to the 256k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2 or the 16k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
This show is archived at www.kurtericson.net/firesign | Cat’s collage archive is at www.kurtericson.net/cat
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||||||||| It's 12:45 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Tweeny - dead from The Plague
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, October 17, 2024 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!" -- then he looks around at the empty room, looks at his watch, and mumbles "...am I early?"
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "8:00 PM and late as usual, it's Tweeny, just back from Funfun Town."
||||||||| Catherwood strides up and announces "Presenting 'Deputy Dang', just granted probation at 8:00 PM", then leaves hurriedly.
Tweeny: Howdy Deputy
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Tweeny! Happy Thursday!
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 11 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Tweeny: Happy Thursday to you as well :)
||||||||| Catherwood enters with Beet close behind, grumbles something about disrupting his 8:00 PM tree-stunting plans, and scurries off to the anteroom.
Beet: Hello dere.
||||||||| Catherwood escorts Cease inside, makes a note of the time (8:00 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
Tweeny: Yo Beet
Tweeny: allo Cease
Cease: Hi all
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Beet! Howdy, Cease!
Beet: Hi, Tween, Cease, Deputy.
Cease: i remember ralph williams. my dad;'s ford dealership was his competitior in the valley
||||||||| Catherwood escorts JZip into the room, accepts three dimes as a gratuity, grumbles something about 8:00 PM, then departs.
Tweeny: Hi JZip
Cease: Let's take a JTrip
Beet: Hey, JZip.
Deputy Dang: Howdy, JZip!
JZip waves hello to all his fellow bozos
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood snorts derisively: "8:00 PM and late as usual, it's llanwydd, just back from Funfun Town."
llanwydd: howdy folks
Cease: Hey llan
Cease: Survived the storm?
Deputy Dang: Howdy, llanwydd!
Tweeny: Hi Llan
llanwydd: yeah, my internet was out for days. thats why I wasnt here last week
llanwydd: the lights always go on a lot sooner than the internet when we have a hurricane
Tweeny: JohanAmadeusMyjetski finally got power back, but has to drive into town to get internet service
llanwydd: oh is jammy in my area?
Tweeny: so glad he didn't get swept away like so many others in NC
Cease: i wasnt here 2 weeks ago because my restaurant in santa fe wouldnt' give me their wifi password
llanwydd: oh of course, nc got hit pretty bad
Tweeny: No, he lives on a mountainside in NC near Asheville, which got hit really hard
Tweeny: lots of people were killed by the floods
llanwydd: yeah, I had a small lake outside my front door
Beet: Hi, Llan
Tweeny: FL got a double-whammy
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "This is Major Hit in the cockpit of the Enola McLuhan."
Cease: one good thing about living on a slope. that shouldn't happen to us.
llanwydd: full of tree branches. nothing fell on me though
llanwydd: these hurricanes are getting tiresome
llanwydd: we had ian just two years ago
Deputy Dang: I love that--Which one? The one with the ever-widening hole in it!
Cease: great line
Cease: geat as electrician was, i think was a progression.
Cease: and was intended as such.
Beet: When first listening to all these, they put you into an entire universe.Truly transforming.
Cease: indeed, beet
llanwydd: I would estimate I have listened to this album three or four hundred times
llanwydd: over many many years
Cease: nairobi mam, isn't everybody is my favourite firesign line.
JZip: It's a favorite here, too.
Beet: Many, many listenings indeed!
Cease: even the beswt teck of today is unable to create a visual universe as amazing as the audio one created here.
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Why does the porridge bird lay his egg in the air?"
llanwydd: the best teck of today doesnt hold a candle to the teck of the past
Cease: you think? wish all this computer power and ai?
llanwydd: the CD put an end to realistic audio
Cease: a case can be made for that.
llanwydd: put an end to album cover art as well
JZip: I'm gonna burn my uniform.
llanwydd: the album cover used to be a very important part of the album
Cease: great place to get rid of seeds
llanwydd: lol
Cease: synchronicity.
Beet: I do miss that as part of a wonderful ritual.
llanwydd: I put The Yes Album to the most use for that prupose
llanwydd: purpose
llanwydd: porpoise
Cease: as long as it's not porpoise.
llanwydd: anybody who never had that experience would probably not end up in this chat room years later
Cease: that'
Cease: that's correct
Deputy Dang: album covers and don't forget the liner notes!
llanwydd: absolutely
llanwydd: remember the liner notes from this album?
llanwydd: I mean the inner gatefold
Beet: Sometimes even the inner sleeve would hve more info on it.
llanwydd: some FST albums came without an inner sleeve
Cease: read any liner notes by ralph j gleason?
llanwydd: doesnt sound familiar
Cease: one of gthe founders of rolling stone. also one of the best music writers. had a jazz tv show in frisco and was a buddy of vince guaralid
llanwydd: two places came without the paper sleeve in it
Cease: his lineer notes to coltrane albums were amazing.
Cease: my copy still has its original one, llan
llanwydd: never bought a coltrane album
llanwydd: any writing on it, cat?
Cease: lioner notes were on everything, in the old days
Beet: Catherwood, make a sudden appearance.
||||||||| Catherwood hands a sudden appearance.
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "The future ain't here yet, man!"
Cease: thourugh this sacred panel. when i was in meof wolf santa fe, there's a fireplace you're supposed to go through. also a washing machine. can not do that.
llanwydd: must be unpleasant to walk through a fireplace
Cease: meaning a space whtere the fire would be. one has to bend down. i'm not that one.
Cease: my young grandsons would enjoy it.
Cease: long shot louie at hyaleah. what an obscure reference
llanwydd: I get hialeah but not louie
llanwydd: put a fin on my fate connects with hialeah
llanwydd: I just checked it out on wiki. apparently a movie called Long Shot Louie came out last year. he must have been a real person
Cease: true. i never followed racing but i had a uncle hwo did and it was a part of la culture when i was growing up there in the 50s
Cease: the metaphor works. some one who bets on likely losers
llanwydd: hialeah is in florida
Cease: right
Cease: forget the tracks in la. but i know hiahleah was a famous reference to horse racing,even a quite a young person.
llanwydd: I cannot understand why anybody would have ever wanted to live in that part of FL in the days before air conditioning. or even vacation there
Cease: my psarents almost moved to florida in 54-55
Cease: had ffriends in hollywood. cuold have grown up there.
llanwydd: at least in my aprt of this state we get a break from the heat in the winter
Cease: instread grew up with firesign theatre and vin scully
llanwydd: part
llanwydd: your hollywood was more fun than ours
Cease: lol
Cease: i grew up among people whose paretns were actors or stuido executives. it was part of the culture
||||||||| Catherwood walks in wearing his pyjamas, yawns, and mumbles "It's midnight here in New York city"...then he falls over and starts snoring loudly..
Tweeny: I was born there
Tweeny: (FL)
Cease: LA, Tween?
Cease: Haven't been there since 54. Has it changed?
Tweeny: Florida, near Daytona Beach
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "May I see your passport, please?"
llanwydd: I remember you mentioning that you had lived in deland, tween. that is much closer to where I am
Cease: you still here, dang?
Tweeny: Yeah, my father taught at Stetson University
Cease: ziping along?
Tweeny: I remember none of it, as I was an infant
Tweeny: I was born in July '54
Tweeny: This is such a great album
Cease: I taught at Otsuma University in Tokyo in the 80s and the University of BC in the 70s
llanwydd: deland is about twenty five miles from de wattah
Tweeny: nice, Cease
Cease: Loved teaching, but when i lost my ability to speak, i had to stop pretending i could teach ESL in 2002.
Cease: my specialist said i'd worn out my vocal chords.
Tweeny: lost your ability to speak?
Tweeny: whoa... :(
Cease: yep. only whisper.
llanwydd: you sound pretty good in your audio recordings, cat
Tweeny: luckily you recovered
Cease: we went to europe for 2 monthes where-in i spoke very little
Beet: Welp, time to go. It was really fun tonight. See everyone next week. G'Nite.
llanwydd: nite beet
Cease: when i started teaching in 2000 after not doing so since 1988, my vocal chords were overtaxed.
Deputy Dang: G'nite Beet!
Cease: by beet
Tweeny: later gator
Deputy Dang: I know that feeling. I've stopped/started teaching several times. Lately I'm alone in my apartment I probably go days without using my voice at all. Maybe I should start talking to myself.
||||||||| Mutt enters at 8:00 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and scurries off to the Chapeau Manger.
Mutt: Nurgi!
Tweeny: Hi Mutt
Mutt: Hi everybody
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Mutt!
||||||||| Outside, the 8:00 PM crosstown bus from Billville pulls away, leaving Not Ed coughing in a cloud of diesel fumes.
Mutt: Evening Tween and Deputy
Tweeny: Hey Not Ed
Not Ed: llan, Mutt, Beet, DDang, Cease, wazzup?
Not Ed: Hey Tweeny
Cease: HI folks
Deputy Dang: Howdy, Not Ed!
Tweeny: Whazz real?!
Not Ed: Love the BOD!
Mutt: Hey Not!
Not Ed: Not sure Tweeny and less so all the time
llanwydd: vas ist das bod?
Not Ed: Mutt!
Not Ed: lol llan
Tweeny: Box Of Danger?
Cease: Jeff! Don't bogart that paste!
llanwydd: aha
Not Ed: lol
Mutt: Don Brouhaha
Not Ed: haha
Cease: white buffalo. in earlier lfiresign play A Shadow Moves, whhitre is the colour of terror
Not Ed: great
Not Ed: like in Russia
||||||||| It's 12:15 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| JZip - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Not Ed: this is truly prog comedy
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Duluth? Bucko, you can get Tierra del Fuego!"
llanwydd: I vaguely remember someone telling me long ago that in dreams white is the symbol of snow and snow is the symbol of a curse and curse can be a symbol of anything
llanwydd: something like that
Cease: just starting new novel called Jimi Hendrix LIve in Lviv. By Ukrainian author Andrey Kurkov whsoe last book Gray Bees I quote in my new play
||||||||| Catherwood says "8:00 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs Not Ed by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
||||||||| Not Ed steals in around 8:00 PM, trying to avoid Catherwood because of last month's "unpleasant incident."
Deputy Dang: It's the bees and spiders again!
Not Ed reappears.
llanwydd: prog comedy is an appropriate term
llanwydd: never thought of that
Cease: these albums were so good, they altered our livess, all of us or we wouldnt' be herfe.
llanwydd: only FST came close to the number of Yes albums I had in my album collection
Mutt: Lemuria!
Not Ed: you know llan?
llanwydd: lemuria to you too
Mutt: Mu!
Not Ed: maybe....
Not Ed: Mooooooo
Mutt: War against the Cows!
Not Ed: not the livestock!
Cease: anyone here read any robert silverberg? i re-read his novel Lord Valentine's Castle when I was in Santa Fe. Now it's follow up, Maljipoor Chronicles. It's unbelieviable good
Mutt: We dropped our load on a herd of cows near Fiji …
Not Ed: what was that coen bros movie?
llanwydd: I know I have read at least a couple of his short stories long ago
Cease: the family that adaopted us arfe from Fiji.
Not Ed: I liked LVC a lot - I haven't read #2 - cool
Deputy Dang: I read Silverberg, but it was long ago. I liked it, but can't recall anything specific at this time.
Mutt: I know BS considers those books one of his major accomplishments
Cease: I have LVC and Maljipoor in my personal librray and have ordered Valentine Pontiflex from the city lbirary
Not Ed: oh cool
Not Ed: I'll have to catch up on those
Cease: He's vastly proflic. HIs Tower of Glass another fave.
Not Ed: maybe Audible hmm....
Cease: Apparently he wrote more Maljipoor tales. Library has some.
Not Ed: that's nice
Mutt: He just recently sold his latest and last short story to a magazine
Mutt: Think it’s all of about 100 words
Not Ed: no kidding
Not Ed: Buzz and Bunny!
Mutt: No lie. He says he done with it, but you never know with BS.
Mutt: I love the German missionaries line
Not Ed: lol yeah this one's a gem
Not Ed: where did Procmer get that voice? lol
Cease: his mother
Not Ed: his mother lol right
Cease: Audrey. he talks a lot about getting that voice from her.
Not Ed: that's great did not know
Mutt: Proc is amazing
Not Ed: truly
Deputy Dang: This scene is one of my favorites.
Cease: all four of them.
Not Ed: me too
Not Ed: so many characters
Mutt: My son and I used to use that line whenever we encountered anything weird - Is this beating and clubbing a part of the dance?
||||||||| Outside, the 8:00 PM uptown bus from Hellmouth pulls away, leaving Cz coughing in a cloud of diesel fumes.
llanwydd: lol
Cz: sorry folks i dissappeared.
Cz: dang, that you have favourite scenes is amazing. there are so many
Not Ed: catherwood bring everyone goat milk and a hemp wheel
||||||||| Catherwood brings everyone goat milk and a hemp wheel.
Mutt: Thanks!
Cz: when i travel, i take lots of pix of favouritie scenes. then i come back home and watch them on the big tv. it magnifies when had earlier been little
Not Ed: nice
Cz: the idea of travel is to experience new things, new pleasures in new places. as long as you travel for pleasure and not need
Not Ed: this will blow your brain: First coherent picture of an atomic nucleus made of quarks and gluons https://phys.org/news/2024-10-coherent-picture-atomic-nucleus-quarks.html
llanwydd: business travel can be very pleasurable as well
Cz: you know, i don't think i've ever travelled for business. teaching is not a business, or should not be
Not Ed: does traveling road bands count?
Deputy Dang: Most of my early business travel was for teaching. Actually... most of my business travel was teaching.
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "These insignificant lumps came together..."
Not Ed: traveling IN road bands I mean
llanwydd: didnt know quarks had to be glued on
Cz: lol
Cz: how uis that, dang?
Not Ed: hymm good point I'll email CERN
Not Ed: hymn?
Cz: im oved many times and got new teaching jobs where i moved, but never moved For a teaching job.
Mutt: Thanks!
Cz: for not moving for a teaching job, muitt?
Deputy Dang: I don't understand the question.
Mutt: Um, no. I didn’t send that “thanks”
Cz: dang, then you are understanding firesign.
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I had to think for a minute ... what cruel game was he playing?"
Not Ed: catherwood bring everyone a Trump voodoo doll and pins
||||||||| Catherwood brings everyone a trump voodoo doll and pins.
Mutt: Not sure what is going on
Not Ed: sorry no politics
Cz: collada, please
llanwydd: pretty spooky, mutt
Mutt: Spooked me, Llan
Cz: letg's centre ourselves on firesign and not us politics now. it does our brains much good
Deputy Dang: 👍
Cz: i live in bc, canadsa and we have an election on saturday. i think our good party will win. not sure about south of the border. but i'd ratgher just listen ot firesign
Mutt: Think I’ll join Harold and Ray on the Golden Staircase. Good night everybody!
Not Ed: lol
||||||||| Mutt leaves to catch the 8:00 PM train to Billville.
Cz: by mutt
Not Ed: there goes Mutt
llanwydd: nite mutt
Deputy Dang: G'nite Mutt!
Not Ed: at last
Deputy Dang: How does Tweeny make his voice do that?
Cz: first and last are plastic concepts, not
||||||||| It's 12:45 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Cease - dead from dengue fever
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Tweeny: haha
Cz: did hyou see teh bbc show about the begining and end of evrything? that iraqi prof. it'e really good
Not Ed: lol
Deputy Dang: never heard of it
Cz: there is a lot of good stuff
Not Ed: uh uh no
Not Ed: sorry I think I'm a bit laste
Not Ed: late
llanwydd: I dont believe there is a beginning and end of everything
Cz: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hg8q7
Deputy Dang: Two shots--bang!
Cz: i dont believe there is an "everything" eh
llanwydd: we exist because of mathematical principals which are apriori
Cz: one of mhy favourite short stories if called The Electric Ant by Philip K Dick. IN it, he posturlates raality is finite. I do not konw, but would be surprised
Cz: true, llan
Not Ed: Ahh if only for heat death....
Cz: you think we know everything we know about that? That's optimistic
Not Ed: Of course the vacuum could collapse....
llanwydd: but two plus two is four will never collapse
||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Get on it and do it every day!"
Not Ed: Fascinating concepts about the end of everything
Cz: did you watch it, not?
Deputy Dang: I will watch that video in the morning.
llanwydd: that changing voice always cracks me up
Not Ed: no but I will
Cz: loved it. also in love with Maljipoor, in that it postulates a bettre, future human consciousness
llanwydd: lol
Not Ed: I'm way into cosmology, cosmography and astrophysics -- things I might have gotten into if I wasn't music-obsessed
llanwydd: do you play anything, NE?
Not Ed: keys, but also percussion & guitars
Not Ed: you?
llanwydd: cool
llanwydd: I used to play classical guitar before I had a hand injury
llanwydd: I can still play a little but it hurts before too long
Not Ed: cool! but sorry to hear that
Not Ed: aww sorry
llanwydd: fortunately I have some old recordings for posterity
Not Ed: oh good!
Not Ed: did you upload anything on youtube or bandcamp or whatever?
llanwydd: never uploaded anything to the internet
llanwydd: never even heard of bandcamp
Not Ed: if you want to, bandcamp is easiest, and it's very clean and easy on the eyes & such, and free
Deputy Dang: Excellent show!
llanwydd: I bought this when it came out. it looked like an album but it was an EP
Not Ed: czech it out
Not Ed: great to see you all!!
llanwydd: thanks for the tip NE
||||||||| Deputy Dang is kicked out just as the clock strikes 8:00 PM.
Not Ed: np we'll talk next time
llanwydd: great show indeed. thanks again tween and cat
Tweeny: Good to see you, compadres
Tweeny: Until last time, again...
Not Ed: thanks tween & crew!!
Not Ed: yep time to go -- see youz allz!!!
llanwydd: one of very few grateful dead songs I dont recongnize
Tweeny: It's the closing track from the Touch Of Grey album
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 1 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
llanwydd: Nite Everybody
||||||||| Around 8:00 PM, llanwydd walks off into the sunset...
||||||||| At 8:00 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, Tweeny!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
||||||||| It's 1:15 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Not Ed - dead from intense demonic possession
||||||||| Cz - dead from the fiddlers
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 2:00 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Beet - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:31 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."


The Evening's Participants:
Beet
Cease
Cz
Deputy Dang
JZip
llanwydd
Mutt
Not Ed
Tweeny
URL References:
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd1
http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/rfd2
www.kurtericson.net/cat
www.kurtericson.net/firesign
https://phys.org/news/2024-10-coherent-picture-atomic-nucleus-quarks.html
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hg8q7



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