||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night." ||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:32 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for January 12, 2023 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule... ||||||||| Rufus T Firetween bounds in at 8:00 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker. ||||||||| New notice: '** There will be a Firesign Theatre/US Plus Stimulcast starting at 9pmET this evening. ** Warm-up music begins around 8:40pmET visit Firesign's *NEW* web site at www.firesigntheatre.com' ||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 7 O'CLOCK", then silently exits. ||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 8 O'CLOCK", then silently exits. ||||||||| It's 8:45 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did: ||||||||| Rufus T Firetween - dead from the fiddlers ||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress... ||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, January 12, 2023 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!" -- then he looks around at the empty room, looks at his watch, and mumbles "...am I early?" ||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and Rufus T Firetween plummets into the garden at 8:00 PM. ||||||||| Catherwood enters with DJTweeny close behind, mumbles something about disrupting his 8:00 PM tree-stunting plans, and runs off to the Aviary. ||||||||| Tweeny sashays in at 8:00 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker. ||||||||| New notice: '** There will be a Firesign Theatre/US Plus Stimulcast starting at 9pmET this evening. ** Warm-up music begins around 8:40pmET You can join the streams now (NO AUDIO YET - just a chance for everybody to get connected) 128k at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or at 16k for dial-up users at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u (streaming server graciously provided by Radio Free Dishnuts - www.dishnuts.net)' ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Currently playing: warm up music – KING CRIMSON-CIRKUS Listen to the stream at 128k at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or at 16k for dial-up users at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u (streaming server graciously provided by Radio Free Dishnuts - www.dishnuts.net)' ||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and Cease plummets into the garden at 8:00 PM. DJTweeny: allo Cease DJTweeny: Comment ca va? Cease: Hey Tween Cease: Ca va bien Cease: is this jeff beck? Cease: oh no, it says king crimson DJTweeny: King Crimson Cease: not one of beck's bands DJTweeny: Should have played some Beck Cease: always liked beck. used to play him a lot on my vancouver radio show DJTweeny: kewl Cease: well, he'll be dead for a long time. you can always play him in the future. DJTweeny: loved the live album he did with The Jan Hammer Group Cease: loved what former Firesign friend Michael Packer posted about him today. ||||||||| 8:00 PM: Merlyn jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past half hour!" Cease: you know the young australian bassist Tal sometihng? she played with him recently. she's facebook friend and posts her music there sometime Cease: Hey Merl. DJTweeny: Yo Merlyn Cease: hope you're well DJTweeny: Never heard of a bassist names 'Tal' DJTweeny: *named Merlyn: cease djtween Cease:https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=tal+wilkenfeld ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Wake up - and consider your only logical choice." Cease: i heard her interview with Maron and have been following her since. Merlyn: better than you DJTweeny: haha Cease: well, that's not saying much, merl Merlyn: ya ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** WELCOME TO THE FIRESIGN CHAT Listen to the stream at 128k at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or at 16k for dial-up users at http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u (streaming server graciously provided by Radio Free Dishnuts - www.dishnuts.net)' ||||||||| Catherwood ushers Beet in through the front door at 8:00 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room. Beet: Good evening, Dear Friends. DJTweeny: Yo Beet Beet: Hi, Dr Tween Cease: Beet ||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits. Beet: Greetings, Dr Cease Merlyn: hey Beet: Nice to see you, Dr Merlyn ||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood announces: "8:00 PM and late as usual, it's Snook, just back from Billville." Cease: when i lived in the states, my family had to register as aliens, though my parents lived there for 50 years Cease: Snook Snook: Howdy y'all ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "You first bag will be your last." Beet: What are we listening to, Dr Tween? Cease: Let me see, Snook is a kind of fish, so you must be similarly aquatic Snook: I work for scale. DJTweeny: A bit from Shoes For Industry Beet DJTweeny: Station Break Beet: cool Rufus T Firetween: BANNER: ** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Now playing: Firesign Theatre's HOW CAN YOU BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE WHEN YOU'RE NOT ANYWHERE AT ALL 128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u Check out TWO PLACES at >> https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=hcyb-rv Cease: probably a pisces. i'm working on a collage about astrology so will definitely use that nick danger bit Snook: And I have been mistaken for a toupee... ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Now playing: Firesign Theatre's HOW CAN YOU BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE WHEN YOU'RE NOT ANYWHERE AT ALL 128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u Check out TWO PLACES at >> https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=hcyb-rv' DJTweeny: oops Cease: popular culture set to puree ||||||||| Bottles enters at 8:00 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and runs off to the Haberdashery Barn. DJTweeny: Hey Bottles Cease: sounds like a book i just finished, Air Guitar by art critic Dave Hickey Cease: and speaking of hickey, here's bottles ||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and Deputy Dang gets out at 8:00 PM. Cease: he purees culture wonderfully in his essays. Cease: hey dang DJTweeny: Howdy Deputy Beet: Hi, Bottles. Deputy Dang: Hey Cease! Howdy Pardners! Beet: Howdy, Deputy. Cease: is the atmospheric river affecting you, bottles Bottles: lHi yal. trying to get the audio, this machine won't do it, security risk... ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Stop torturing me Ethyl!" Cease: proctor does a tuesday afternoon kpfk show now, and was complaining about how difficult for him to get to the station do to the flooding Cease: due DJTweeny: I've hear Cal is getting well-doused Bottles: When DM flooded, one station's staff had to take canoes to work. Snook: Atmospheric river, that atmospheric river, he must know somethin', he don't say nothin', that atmospheric river, keeps on tryin' to wash Los Angeles Away... I'm having a little trouble with the rhyme scheme... DJTweeny: lots of landslides closing off roads Cease: i hope you are listening to his show. great to support 82 year old phil,while we still can. DJTweeny: 101 closed in places due to flooding ||||||||| Catherwood accompanies InTheWood inside, makes a note of the time (8:00 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something. DJTweeny: got a link Cat? DJTweeny: Hi InTheWood InTheWood: HI all! Cease: Hi woody Beet: Hey, Wood. Snook: Hi, In! InTheWood: Been far too long. Rufus T Firetween: ** Read about TWO PLACES at >> https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=hcyb-ln Snook: Ah, the theme song Cease:https://www.kpfk.org/on-air/phil-and-teds-sexy-boomer-show/ Cease:https://www.kpfk.org/blogs/programming-highlights/post/phil-and-teds-sexy-boomer-show-tues-jan-10-2023-at-100-pm-with-guest-futurist-scientist-and-artist-jaron-lanier/ InTheWood: Definitely the Gomorrah. Bottles: Yay. I got audio. Snook: Trivia question: Peter Bergman's parents had a radio show. Can anyone name the show, city, or even the station? Bottles: The rain was getting old two weeks ago. Thanks for asking. Cease: interesting interviw with Lanier on Tuesday. watched Lanier's flick the social dilemma on netflix yesterday and will probably turn it into a collage ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "What's it all about, Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Smith from Anytown, USA?" Cease: Breakfast with the Bergmans Bottles: The Bergmans? ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Hello, we're glad you made it!" Bottles: Oh, right, Breakfast... Snook: Yep, a breakfast show Bottles: Wonder if any airchecks exist. Cease: I've been listening to the 2 Digital Diners in prep for my asstrology collage and bergman does an extended riff on virtual reality, which is lanier's clam to fame Cease: pete's parents. DJTweeny: Breakfast With The Brunts is a skit fro Pink Hotel Bottles: cool Cease: no doubt based on the bergman breakfast thing Snook: No doubt. I know it was in Cleveland, but don't know the station. Bottles: My family wouldn't have made a good show. "Get off the phone!" Snook: The all-time funniest takeoff on those breakfast shows was done by Fred Allen and Tallulah Bankhead. A classic. ||||||||| Not Ed steps in at 8:00 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker. Not Ed: Pork? InTheWood: Kinda. Beet: My mother had her own TV show in the early 50's. DJTweeny: Hey Not Cease: got a link for that, snook? Not Ed: Wow hey Beet, Bottles DJTweeny: wow Beet ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Let me hear it for me!" Cease: hi not Cease: really, beet? Bottles: What was it about, Beet? Not Ed: Hey Tweeny, Cease Snook: Early 50s -- live, black and white...? Beet: Hi, Not DJTweeny: when TV was live Not Ed: Wazzup Ruf Snook: Hi Not Ed Not Ed: Evening ITW Not Ed: Hey Snook Beet: She did interviews, local news and sometimes weather. DJTweeny: what was the subject of the TV show? InTheWood: While looking great, of course. DJTweeny: kewl Merlyn: hey Bottles: It's one of those days I don't even wanna get out of bed. Even to eat. Beet: She was a professional model also. DJTweeny: ehhh Bottles, sorry to hear :/ Cease: i didnt even see tv until i was 5. my small hometown didnt have tv and the closest "big city" was too far away InTheWood: Toldja. Cease: not feeling well, bottles? ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Scene 3 - Take 600" Rufus T Firetween: ** Read about TWO PLACES at >> https://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=hcyb-ln Bottles: It's the weather as much as anything, Tweeny. Gray skies, for weeks now. Not Ed: Sorry Bot Bottles: Monsoon DJTweeny: depressing Cease: seasonal affective disorder? Not Ed: Monlater pls ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Offer not good after curfew in sectors R or N." DJTweeny: SAD ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Let me hear it for me!" Bottles: Yes, Cease. I get it every year. Cease: i prefer gray skys to sun. skin cancer risk Cease: if your skin is as white as mine, the sun is NOT your friend Bottles: Yeah, Cease, but a half hour a day is great. Cease: vancouver suits me. DJTweeny: I light-skinned person of Japanese heritage InTheWood: And you look so good in an overcoat and flowing scarf. DJTweeny: *A Cease: have you tried one of those lamps? lots of people in Van suffer from SAD and seem to get relief from the artificial sun of the lamps Not Ed: As W Allen said I don't tan I stroke Beet: The hammy schmaltz always makes me laugh. Cease: no japanese heritage. my grandparents are from eastern europe (mostly ukraine). Snook: In this weather, you can get nice and brown - you'll rust... Not Ed: STOP Bottles: I gotta get a sun lamp. Cease: my japanese last name comes from taking my wife's last name. Bottles: That's way cool, Cease. Not Ed: boom boom Cease: i heard an interview with ossman about this album. he said the anti-american spirit of this piece was a big selling point Snook: This segment is Firesign's tribute to/parody of Norman Corwin. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I say Live it, or Live With It!" Cease: it would have been cooler if people weren' Beet: Also anti capitalism. Not Ed: Corwin of Amber Cease: forced to take a new name when they get married. that was the law in BC when Fumiyho and I got married here in 75. Cease: they changed the law so long ago that people have no memory of those days. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I have proof I've been to ancient Greece, look at this grape!" Merlyn: hey Snook: Corwin was a major influence on the use of audio, and Firesign worked with him in the 1990s Bottles: So you took her name in protest? Cease: yes, it has a strong corwin feel to it. almost the anti=corwin. DJTweeny: Hi Snook :) DJTweeny: Merlyn's back :) Snook: Hi DJTweeny Beet: Hi, Snook Cease: no. she wanted to keep her last name, which was illegal, so i changed my last name from Simril to Ishikawa. Simril is now my middle name, though i still use it in my audio productions as i've been doing them since before I was married, 48 years ago Snook: Hiya Beet Bottles: Ohhh, I see. Cease: and speaking of the past, i noticed that the digital diners were sponsored by More Sugar. Cease: bergman encourages listeners to buy audio from more sugar and repeatedly gives the phone number Snook: Oh, definitely Corwinesque. Rufus T Firetween: Ah, so you're a white boy. Fair skin from Ireland? Cease: ukraine Rufus T Firetween: kewl Bottles: I once had a collection of US History according to Standard Oil records. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "You can wait here in the sitting room, or you can sit here in the waiting room." Snook: What they learned from him was the fluid style, moving the thought along with words and sounds... InTheWood: Did anyone here, hear the Digital Diners by computer, live? Rufus T Firetween: truly 'caucasian' Bottles: I wanted to use them for a collage, but they burned. Snook: I was in one once. Cease: you know about them, wood? Beet: I actually did. Felt like I was in heaven. Cease: when i met ted bonnet at bergman's memorial in kirkland and told him how much i enjoyed the dds, he was amazed that i'd heard them InTheWood: They were posted to the Apple FT podcasts in the aughts-tens. Rufus T Firetween: We need to do the Digital Diners sometime after the Quadrilogy Cat Cease: you werein a DD? Cease: we do indeed, tween. Cease: i think michael packer sent me air checks on cassettes. InTheWood: Wow, cassettes, no less. Snook: I was visiting David and Judith with a couple of friends, and they were doing a DD - David was synching in via internet or maybe it was satellite; the other three were in Los Angeles. Cease: i'm using bits of both DDs in my astrology collage, which i hope to have finished by next week. Not Ed: "The Undecided Molecule" (Robert Benchley, Norman Lloyd, Groucho Marx, Vincent Price, Sylvia Sidney and Keenan Wynn) - Norman Corwin Presents, July 17, 1945 https://youtu.be/yOK33ozfrJM Cease: in whidbey? santa barbara? Snook: They needed a crowd background for a bit, so my friends and I wanderd back and forth behind David, making incomprehensible conversation. Bottles: I'm getting bedsores - gotta make dinner. Snook: The MOLECULE is a classic. I produced it here just last year, live, and the audience was blown away. Cease: you know, not. i bought the whole corwin package from More Sugar and used some in my collages, but despite the incredible cast, i am not a fan of the molecule Not Ed: Want Ossman to produce The Undecided Molecule - wonder if he ever considered it Not Ed: you did Snook?! Not Ed: Wow! cool! Beet: Bon apetit, Bottles. Cease: incomprehensible conversation. just what i'm trying to mix in my new collage Snook: About 2/3 of the way through the MOLECULE, Groucho goes off script and begins to adlib. NOBODY ever did that on a Corwin show. Not Ed: BBBottles take care Bottles: I just found the Undecided Molecule on Youtube. InTheWood: Right -I just looked- They were posted to the Radio Free Oz podcast. Was Peter himself responsible for those posts? Cease: eat well, bottles, if that's not a contradictionh Cease: really? Not Ed: "The Undecided Molecule" (Robert Benchley, Norman Lloyd, Groucho Marx, Vincent Price, Sylvia Sidney and Keenan Wynn) - Norman Corwin Presents, July 17, 1945 https://youtu.be/yOK33ozfrJM Bottles: No Cease, that swould be Drink well. Snook: Norman told me that Sylvia Sidney's performance was "flat," and Groucho instantly saw the energy go out of the show and tried to put it back in. His adlibs are sidesplitting. Cease: i try and do both Not Ed: Interesting Snook Cease: true, snook Not Ed: It is, was : ) Cease: i recorded the new americna mastters about groucho but haven't been stoned enough to watch it yet. Snook: If you listen closely you can hear the cast breaking up in the background and trying not to be heard on the air. Cease: i made a collage with my 10 year old grandson out of the dog story Snook: The Odyssey of Runyon Jones? InTheWood: I wonder where Ruth is. Cease: ossman says somewhere that discovering that play got him into radio scripts Cease: yes snook. Not Ed: was it ever done as a book? like Tashlin's "the bear that wasn't" etc? Cease: did you hear it? Not Ed: I guess it's too long Snook: Corwin published a couple of books of his radio scripts. Merlyn: hey Cease: Dogged Runyon - A few years ago, I saw an exhibition by Art Spiegelman, famous author of MAUS and RAW. In the museum's gift shop, I found a book by Art called Open Me, I'm a Dog which I fell in love with and wanted to share with a young person. My grandson Phoenix Chand turned 7 last year so I thought it would be a good time to give him the book for Christmas. Here he is reading the book, along with the 1944 Norman Corwin play The Odyssey of Runyon Jones and some assorted Firesign dog bits. Bergman's French bull dog Nurgi had a big influence on early Firesign and Austin's love of dogs had a big influence on him. Cease: are you a bot, merl? Not Ed: R-E-G-N-A-D K-C-I-N Merlyn: na cwase Cease: I have a story about nurgi. InTheWood: Go on! Snook: I happened to send David a cassette of RUNYON JONES back in 1988, and that reminded him of his experience when he was 8. Not Ed: LOL C & m Cease: a friend and i drove down to kirkland for the bergman memorial and checked into a hotel. most of the others were staying there as well Snook: So in 1989 at the Workshop, David directed the play. Cease: so i had breakfast with lili bergman, the whole ossman clan and many oterhs. Not Ed: I'm not a bot! I'm a Freeman Cease: on my elevator ride down to the restaurant, there was a guy on the elevator carrying a dog that looked just like nurgi Not Ed: Hey kid, I'm not a bot! InTheWood: That would be telling... Snook: Wish I could have been there at Bergman's (and Austin's) memorials... Rufus T Firetween: ** NEW FIRESIGN RELEASE!! ** - ANYTOWN U.S.A. – Digital Download >> https://firesigntheatre.bandcamp.com/album/anytown-usa-live-1974 Cease: i told the gang, and they (ossman in particular) insisted it was a sign from bergman Snook: How can you tell he looked like Nurgi? What end did you see? Cease: was there an austin memorial? where? i never heard of it. Not Ed: Tanx Ruf Cease: from the many pix of nurgi posted here and there. Merlyn: i just was Not Ed: Catherwood bring everyone a key. ||||||||| Catherwood brings everyone a key. Snook: Actually I'm not sure. Perhaps it was just a very private thing with Oona and the Ossman clan Not Ed: hahaha Beet: A key of what? Snook: Key-low. Not Ed: Gflat Cease: did you attend any of the memorials, merl? Not Ed: even better organ than in the olden days Cease: yeah that sounds like austin. the kind of opposite of flamboyant pete Snook: Was Nick Danger's last appearance in "Lucky Liabilty?" Cease: what's that, snook? Cease: not the pizza hut ads? Snook: A cut from All Things Firesign Not Ed: Key Luke? Merlyn: ya bergman Not Ed: oh hey Merl Merlyn: im brian Westley Cease: la? Cease: dont recall seeing you in kirkland Merlyn: i thia\ Not Ed: I'm confused too Rufus T Firetween: "If you think you're confusing now..." Snook: Being confused is quite normal, the first six or eight times you hear Firesign ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "You people are soooooo superstitious!" Cease: but it's constructive confusion Merlyn: i tthik tis is norman Cease: William the Conqueror? Merlyn: i was wish \ Not Ed: lol true dat Snook Cease: snook: heard firesign. you're talking about the albums, right? InTheWood: Keep me away from him! Cease: i came to firesign through the krla show, from april 67. from the mushrooms shows, also from that year, it's not much a leap to electricain, production values aside Snook: Well, the albums certainly but darn near anything, actually! Rufus T Firetween: ** NEW FIRESIGN RELEASE!! ** - BEFORE THEY CHANGED THE WATER – Digital Download >> https://firesigntheatre.com/store/beforetheychangedthewater?rq=before%20they%20changed%20the%20water Merlyn: i was wist tom/doc Not Ed: The Weird Museum of Vintage Radio (playlist) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8v7ZDxE26jfBSkt3vwOpaz8zLk_4-1WC Cease: where, when merl? Merlyn: i thi Snook: Well, the albums certainly but darn near anything, actually! Cease: our seattle trip? Cease: no snook. as i said, if you listen to them from the beginning, they're not confusibng. you dont even needs thumbs on script Merlyn: memorial Snook: Just looked at the Weird Museum. Interesting collection. THREE SKELETON KEY and THE HOUSE IN CYPRESS CANYON are standouts. But they don't have Arch Oboer's CHICKEN HEART. Cease: memorial? in LA? with doc tech? Merlyn: ya Not Ed: You can find a couple of versions on my "Mystery Vault" playlist Snook https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8v7ZDxE26jeArV09c9ofR9mMIqZiGvJ3 Merlyn: i think Cease: did you hang out with austin? Cease: not sure if he still lived in LA then. Not Ed: Including Cosby's version (Chicken Heart) Not Ed: I mean Cosby's routine Merlyn: i don't think austerit\ ||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 3 O'CLOCK", then silently exits. Snook: I heard Cosby's routine as a kid, and was astonished to find it had been a real show. Cease: i thought the austins had sold their la house and moved permanently to fox island by the time of pete's death, not sure Rufus T Firetween: ** Thanks to RADIO FREE DISHNUTS for providing the streaming server for this show. If you'd like to make a small contribution to help with the server fees, there's a PayPal link to donate here >> http://dishnuts.net Beet: Great stuff Not Ed: Shake it but don't break it ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Currently playing: RICHARD FISH INTERVIEW WITH DAVID OSSMAN (Jan 8th, 2023) 128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u check out Richard Fish's Firehouse Theater at >> https://spinitron.com/WFHB/show/164847/Firehouse-Theater' Not Ed: Cool stuff Cat thx Bottles: Yay. Dishes washed. Snook: Started with TEMPORARILY HUMBOLDT COUNTY Cease: we do our best, not. the firesign sure do. Cease: yay clean bottles Cease: much better than dirty bottles Cease: the great Fish voice! Not Ed: Birdy dottles? Rufus T Firetween: ** Read about Richard Fish's FIREHOUSE THEATER at >> https://spinitron.com/WFHB/show/164847/Firehouse-Theater?page=1 Bottles: This is Ossman? Snook: The telephone was only in the left channel that night -- the channel couldn't be switched to mono until after the show. Cease: i thought community radio was around since the beginning Not Ed: Whidbey yay Bottles: Cool Cease: ossman 4 days ago, talkikng to snook Bottles: Community radio started in 1949 at KPFA Bottles: Lew Hill started it Not Ed: wow neat Bot Cease: you were on kpfa, right, bottles? Bottles: Yeah Snook: Firesign started on community radio! Cease: indeed Not Ed: that's great Not Ed: catherwood bring everyone a zesty beverage according to their want ||||||||| Catherwood hands everyone a zesty beverage according to their want. Bottles: A friend of mine George Coats was a theater producer, who went to cable TV, then moved to KPFA. I just ran the board. Cease: i would have thought there was some sort of community radio in the 30s. i mean, woody guthrie used to be on the radio! Bottles: George is incredible political comedy writer Not Ed: this machine kills fascists Bottles: There's been public radio before that. Rufus T Firetween: ** Read about Richard Fish's FIREHOUSE THEATER at >> https://spinitron.com/WFHB/show/164847/Firehouse-Theater?page=1 Bottles: Usually college stations, I'd guess. Snook: No, a coummunity radio station is not affiliated with any other organization, it's a stand-alone nonprofit. Cease: wasn't there some sort of law from the beginning of radio, mandating public access? in your country> Bottles: a lot of people did 15 minute shows back then when Woody was on radio. maybe he did something like that, like BB King Cease: i think there was something like that in canada in the 30s, well established by ww2 Bottles: That sounds about right, Cease, part of the FCC rules ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "What is reality?" Cease: yeah i'mthinking bb king too Snook: there is also a story that while there on the Hopi lands they encountered Coyote. I did not have time to ask David about this. Cease: you can still ask him. he's still alive Bottles: Some commercial stations just do a half hour public affairs show once a week, like at 5 AM Bottles: PeterCoyote? Cease: yeah there is a story ossman tells about the guy they saw at the bottom of the mesa, and then at the top. Snook: the first public station was W2NY in New York, which was where Corwin started doing radio, and it was his show on that station which got him hired by CBS. Snook: Oh, I'll ask David! "on this program," I should have said. Cease: when was that, snook? Cease: a bit stoned Bottles: Oh, you mean the trickster Coyote Cease: yeah i have ossman on tape telling that tale. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Mister policeman, what makes America great?" Snook: Yes. Coyote the trickster. Bergman told me this once. They passed an old man on the road -- they were driving, he was walking -- and when they got to their destination he was already there. Cease: the same trip as the Music of the Spheres, mystical experience. Cease: yes yes, snook. that's ossman's tale. Cease: that goes along with bergman's buzzing suitcase and many proc tales. Bottles: KPFA and KPFK etc are non-commercial and non-underwriting. That's what Lew Hill started Snook: WFHB's "mother station" is KOPN in Columbia, Missouri, and this is their 50th year on the air! Cease: the lads have had some experiences FAR weirder than any of their productions ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Currently playing: RICHARD FISH INTERVIEW WITH PHIL PROCTOR (1999, 2003 128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u check out Richard Fish's Firehouse Theater at >> https://spinitron.com/WFHB/show/164847/Firehouse-Theater' Snook: This was last Sunday Not Ed: Thanks Tweeny cuz I missed it - couldn't find it oops Cease: your voice didnt' change in 24 years Snook: Oh, this! This was recorded in 1999, and I had to edit it down for last Sunday's broadcast. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Mister policeman, what makes America great?" Cease: i've been mixing the lads work from 67 and thier voies were so much younger Snook: It followed the radio premiere of GIVE ME IMMORTAILITY OR GIVE ME DEATH Cease: still here, merl? Snook: I felt like a pedestrian in the middle of the track at the Indianpolis 500. Cease: Beet? Wood? Dang? Rufus T Firetween: ** NEW FIRESIGN RELEASE!! ** - FOOLS IN SPACE – Digital Download >> https://firesigntheatre.com/store/brucesnyderdesignandtime-mk6dl?rq=fools%20in%20space Cease: well, indiana has to be famous for Something! Merlyn: still heas Snook: I'm afraid Indiana is famous for Mike Pence and Dank Wail. InTheWood: Still got one foot on the computer! Bottles: And the KKK has been going strong in Indiana for years, I heard Bottles: = which is odd, being in the north states Beet: Beet still here. Not Ed: Whenever I see Mike Pence I always think "he looks so natural" Not Ed: hey Beet Not Ed: Pence is very clean Snook: Southern Indiana was full of southern sympathizers during the Civil War. But not everyone. My house may have been a stop on the Underground Railroad. Cease: a fish with an eyeball hat! Beet: cool Not Ed: hahaha Bottles: Awesome, Snook. Was there any hiding spaces in the house? Snook: I was wearing my eyeball hat again last Sunday. Not Ed: cool ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Son, it's in the water - that's why it's yellow." Not Ed: wow Snook Snook: There was a tunnel from one room going to a cave in a gully on the East end of my property...I was told. My house was built in 1902 but replaced a "pre-existing structure" which may have been a log cabin. Bottles: I wrote a play slightly about the Underground railroad, the hiding place was under a trapdoor in the barn, with a carriage parked on top of it. Not Ed: that's wild! Cease: Saskatchewan should be famous for Joni Mitchell, Buffy St. Marie, and most of all Tommy Douglas Rufus T Firetween: Indiana was one of the first founding States of the KKK (the most 'southern' of the northern states, they say). It's a complicated place. Cease: wow, bottles. Snook: Bloomington, where I live, is a bright blue dot in a red sea. Rufus T Firetween: Bloomington is like Austin in the sense that it is 'an island of blue surrounded by a sea of red'. Rufus T Firetween: Yes ^^ Snook: Toothbrushes falling out of the air! Bottles: Bloomington is a big music town I heard Snook: Right on, Rufus. Cease: just listened to michael moore's little podcast series, turning red areas to blue. Rufus T Firetween: The music school at Indiana University is said to be on par with Julliard Snook: Bloomington is an amazing music town. the I.U. school of music is now rated above Julliard for Jazz and Opera. Cease: ah, doc john, the shrink. Rufus T Firetween: people come from all over the world to study there Cease: he was on a nick danger episode. Not Ed: North Texas State is still a hotbed Snook: I think there are something like 3000 Chinese students here. Cease: we corresponded, and he had corresponded with del close, who had corresonded with lord buckly. Rufus T Firetween: Bloomington is quite eclectic and multi-cultural, including a Tibetan Cultural Center Bottles: Roger Salloom was from Bloomington I heard Snook: And many others from other countries. Rufus T Firetween: The Dali Lama's brother taught at IU back in the 50s, as I recall Bottles: Part of Salloom, Sinclair and The Mother Bear Snook: The Dalai Lama visits whenever he's in the U.S. -- the Tibetan monastery and cultural center was founded by his brother, Professor Norbu. Cease: lots of farms around there, snook? sask mostly farms Rufus T Firetween: right, Norbu Beet: It's nice to hear that the Tibetans have some presence in the U.S. Snook: Quite a few farms, and pastureland, but we're in rolling-hills country and most of the farms are in the Northern 2/3 of the state, which was smashed down by the Ice Age and is all flat as a pancake. Bottles: Iowa is like that too
Rufus T Firetween lived in Nashville in the Hill Country Snook: I attended Tibetan New Year there one year, and after our tibetan meal, Professor Norbu entered, escording Richie Havens, who got up and sang. Bottles: He's got a flea? Rufus T Firetween: wow, Snook :) Snook: Rufis, you lived in Nashville? I'm doing a show there at the Brown County Playhouse. Snook: We're doing the radio version of THE MALTESE FALCON. Rufus T Firetween: We saw Ravi Shankar at IU Auditorium Cease: Larry Bird. That's a good reason to know of Indiana. Bottles: Wow, that sounds great, Snook! Beet: Ravi will get you high. Rufus T Firetween: Yes Snook, I was the sound mixer for the Little Nashville Opry in the 80s Snook: Richie did the exact same set I heard him do in 1970 Bottles: Do you do radio theater, Snook? Snook: Boy, do I. Rufus T Firetween: had a little MIDI/Audio project studio in Nashville Cease: lol Cease: Snook IS radio theatre Bottles: Great. What's the name of your productions? Snook: Well, not exactly. But I have been doing it since I first heard Firesign in 1969 Cease: No More Sugar? Bottles: Do you do original plays? Cease: I'll always be Seemreal Theatre. Snook: The whole conversation lasted about 38:00 and I spent most of the time trying to get a word in edgewise. Wow. Cease: but they were Good words, snook Bottles: Oh, this is you! Snook: Bottles, I've done about anything. At the moment I'm trying to revive live variety shows here -- we did 4 two-hour broadcasts a year for 12 years until the Covid came Snook: Like I said, Cease, it felt like standing on the track while the Indy 500 roars past. Bottles: We have 5 years of original radio plays recorded, if you want to run them, Snook. Snook: Oh! Really! Send them along, Bottles, please! Email me on my radio email: fish [at] wfhb [dot] org. Bottles: We've been talking about syndicating them for years Bottles: radio email: fish [at] wfhb [dot] org. Got it. Cease: when i've been hanging with the lads and they get into a riff, i just sat back. if you can add a word or two here and there, it is fun. Cease: i wrote the word hanging and proc sayhs hanging Snook: Sarah N. Dippity Cease: i recorded this week's show, with lanier. will make a collage out of it. Merlyn: hey ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I think we're all Bozos on this bus." Cease: proc and oss are a good commercial for immortality Not Ed: RIP Jeff Beck Bottles: Also RIP Lisa Marie Presley Snook: Amen, Cease. In their 80s and still going. Not Ed: Firefolks I have to run - So good to see you all - Thanks Tweeny & Cat & Merl and Ruf! Take good care all! Bottles: I just read on breaking news she died. Cease: off you go, not Beet: Have a nice evening, Not. Snook: Take it easy, Not Ed! Bottles: Bye Not Ed Cease: lol Cease: with bated breath Snook: Interviewing Phil is such a trip. You just fire off one pinball and he keeps it going forever. Merlyn: bye Snook: Sayonara, Merlyn! Snook: Oh...you were addressing Not, not leaving. not. Bottles: He is a talker DJTweeny: The Millennium series of albums reall was worthy of 'the good old days' of FST Cease: by merl Cease: true, tween Snook: And of course we went overtime. It was Phil. Cease: good to be alive in 2025 DJTweeny: I love Boom Dot Bust, which purportedly was about Bloomington, IN Beet: See ya, Merl Snook: Boom Dot Bust -- Billville really resembles this place; we even call it B-town. Snook: And we have Elmertown -- it's called Elletsville... DJTweeny: Proc's tombstone should say 'Which Way's Goshen?' Cease: lol ||||||||| New notice: '** NEW REVAMPED FIRESIGN WEB SITE!! – WWW.FIRESIGNTHEATRE.COM ** Currently playing: from the Box Of Danger collection “THE CASE OF THE MISSING GENERAL” 128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u check out BOX OF DANGER at >> https://www.shoutfactory.com/music/spoken-word/the-firesign-theatre-s-box-of-danger-the-complete-nick-danger-casebook' Merlyn: hey i mean not ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Gee Mom, isn't that bridge built yet?" Snook: But the Firesigns have had various Midwest connections (hey, Bergman's from Cleveland) and in truth they were aiming at the whole region. Bottles: Where's Proctor from? DJTweeny: Goshen DJTweeny: hence the ref in Temporarily Humbolt County Bottles: The land 0' Goshen? Snook: By a weird co-incidence my Insurance Agent is now in Goshen. Snook: Goshen is up at the North end of the state, not far from Elkhart, home of Conn instruments Bottles: Yeah! Elkhart, I've heard of that. I think there's another instrument brand name from there. Cease: well, yes, but mostly manhattan, if you read his autobi DJTweeny: Didn't know Conn was from there, interesting Bottles: Olds? Cease: everything comes from somewhere Bottles: What a great name for a FT LP, Cease! ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "I see you are a sailor." DJTweeny: and Shure mics from Evansville? Cease: true ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "...And no Buddhist writers either!" Snook: Yes, Bottles, a perfect name! Cease: maybe i can use that a title for a play. Snook: ElectroVoice is in South Bend Bottles: "Everything Comes From Somewhere" - There's a play DJTweeny: hah, didn't know that either Cease: my new play is about family/linguistic connections to Ukraine, but that title could stil work DJTweeny: South Bend, a city at the northernmost part of a state Cease: yeah Beet: Selmer instruments is in Elkhart, Indiana Cease: was that butigieg's city? Bottles: That's it, Selmer! Saxophones DJTweeny: but then I still say that Indiana is the most ironically named state in the union (no Indians) Beet: Couple of my friends had Selmers. Bottles: Not a single reservation? Snook: We're all right. Conn and Selmer merged Bottles: My friend had a Mark V tenor sax Snook: Well, there were Indians when it was named. Although there were never really any Indians, that was a mistake by History's Worst Navigator. DJTweeny: "There are no federally recognized Indian tribes based in Indiana today." according to google Cease: i had rarely heard that ||||||||| New notice: '** THANKS FOR LISTENING, ALL! ** Thanks to Radio Free Dishnuts, www.dishnuts.net, for providing the streaming server for the simulcast :) Be sure to join me (Kurt in Austin) for my live RADIO FREE ROADKILL show from 7-9pm EST every Tuesday at www.dishnuts.net Listen to the ARCHIVES FOR FIRESIGN CHAT SHOWS at: www.kurtericson.net/firesign' Rufus T Firetween: ** Thanks for listening, all… See you next week, same Firetime, same Firestation... Beet: This was hugely entertaining. Thanks to everyone.Great compilations, Dr Cease. Thanks for guiding once again, Dr Tween. G'Nite all. Bottles: Thank You Cease and Tweenie! Deputy Dang: Thank you for the work that went into this. I quite enjoyed it. Snook: Yes, Indiana has no reservations with casinos and tax-free gas and cigarettes. DJTweeny: yw Cease: we do our best Merlyn: hey Snook: Many thanks for running those interviews! They were great fun, but it's even more fun to share them. Bottles: Hey Merlyn. Deputy Dang: double plus good. and... good night all! Cease: yes, they should be heard ||||||||| Deputy Dang departs at 8:00 PM, singing "Toad away, toad away; toad away, toad away! Where do you go when you're toad away?" Bottles: Yeah! Great interviews, Snook. ||||||||| Catherwood interjects: "Offer not good after curfew in sectors R or N." Rufus T Firetween: ** Read about Richard Fish's FIREHOUSE THEATER at >> https://spinitron.com/WFHB/show/164847/Firehouse-Theater?page=1 Snook: And it's coming up on Elf Uhr, so I'm going to have to fade my voice out like this, and cue the organist... Cease: i've been doing my best almost since the firesign beginning to expand their audience, not so much for them, as i think civiiization itself expands by exposure to their work Bottles: Yes, they are expanding the universe Snook: NOT INSANITY expands by listening to Firesign! 'Night, all! InTheWood: Thanks, Tween and Cease! Great show tonight! ||||||||| InTheWood rushes off, saying "8:00 PM? Mark Time is almost on! Where's a radio?" Cease: at least Our universe, bottles Cease: asstrology next week Cease: see ya on facebook ||||||||| Around 8:00 PM, Cease walks off into the sunset... Merlyn: goodnite ||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 4 O'CLOCK", then silently exits. ||||||||| Bottles departs at 8:00 PM, singing "Toad away, toad away; toad away, toad away! Where do you go when you're toad away?" ||||||||| At 8:00 PM, Merlyn vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted! ||||||||| Catherwood says "8:00 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs DJTweeny by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door ||||||||| It's 4:15 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did: ||||||||| Not Ed - dead from intense demonic possession ||||||||| Snook - dead from The Plague ||||||||| Beet - dead from the fiddlers ||||||||| Rufus T Firetween - dead from the fiddlers ||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress... ||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:31 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."
The Evening's Participants:
Beet
Bottles
Cease
Deputy Dang
DJTweeny
InTheWood
Merlyn
Not Ed
Rufus T Firetween
Snook
