A Firesign Chat
03/15/2012




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||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:33 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for March 15, 2012 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood enters with Principalpoop close behind, mumbles something about disrupting his 8:53 PM tree-stunting plans, and hurries off to the Aviary.
||||||||| "8:53 PM? I'm late!" exclaims Principalpoop, who then dashes out through the french doors and down through the garden.
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, March 15, 2012 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!" -- then he looks around at the empty room, looks at his watch, and mumbles "...am I early?"
||||||||| 9:00 PM: c jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past five minutes!"
c: this room's absence reflects the absence of peter bergman
||||||||| Catherwood accompanies SouthBySouthTweeny into the room, accepts an I.O.U. as a gratuity, mumbles something about 9:04 PM, then departs.
SouthBySouthTweeny: Hey folks
c: not plural
SouthBySouthTweeny: Man, what a loss :/
||||||||| H Stones enters at 9:05 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and scurries off to the Haberdashery Barn.
||||||||| Catherwood tiptoes into the room, and snorts derisively "Announcing 'llanwydd', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 9:05 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the vestibule...
SouthBySouthTweeny: Hello Stones, LL
llanwydd: hello, dear friends
c: i wonder where dex is. he was the only regular chatter who wasnt on saturday's wake/chat
||||||||| Catherwood enters with Principalpoop close behind, mutters something about disrupting his 9:06 PM tree-stunting plans, and rushes off to the Aviary.
c: poop, llan
H Stones: hi there gaz guys and otherwise
Principalpoop: hey all, yur hiness
c: stones
SouthBySouthTweeny: Hey P
H Stones: i was wondering the same thing
Principalpoop: i think it is a scam
H Stones: what kind of scam
llanwydd: well, there were two chats. if I remember right, dex was at one of them
c: oh?
Principalpoop: i mean there are 3 phils right? i had all my money on a phil going first, something is fishy
llanwydd: one on friday and one on saturday
Principalpoop: 2 chats?
c: you mean 2 on sat or sat/fri/sun?
Principalpoop: ahh ok
c: yeah i was in washington on friday. we drove down to an island for dinner after i'd received email from austin about pete's death
H Stones: i went to the normal chat room, ie this one but i also followed the link to leave comments about Mr Bergman
Principalpoop: I want an investigation
c: i brought along the 99 seattle cd, but my friend's car's cd player refused to give it back
Principalpoop: ouch cat
||||||||| Merlyn bounds in at 9:09 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
Principalpoop: hey M
llanwydd: Hi Merlyn
H Stones: and heres the man to help with any investigation
Merlyn: hey all
c: i haven't done that yet, stones. just posted on my blog,
c: http://www.seemrealland.blogspot.com/
c: hey merl. the ancient bergman show i told you about is not listenable. maybe taylor can fix it up for us all to hear
H Stones: i have arranged to get Radio Lancashire over here to play part of side two of Bozos either this saturday night or alternatively next saturday, depending on the post of course
c: good work, stones
c: i just listened to harry shearer's show. at the end, he bids adieu to pete, calling him the father of modern hip comedy
Principalpoop: bravo stones
H Stones: its the least i could do,
llanwydd: well, if you can only play one side, side two would be it
c: i see, you are, a sailor
Principalpoop: i did not see you come in, hey llan
c: perhaps my fave firesign line
||||||||| Ben Bland enters at 9:13 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and rushes off to the Hat Pack Annex.
llanwydd: you didn't see me come in because I was here before you.
llanwydd: Hey Ben
c: hi ben
Ben Bland: Ted Alvy died, Peter Bergman died. I only found out today.
H Stones: i also contacted the guy who brought FT over to do a live gig on BBC Radio4 a couple of years back, you may remember it Merlyn, i send a copy i had made when the BBC in typical form neglected to send their own copy to Pete
Principalpoop: ahh, sneaking up on me like a snake in the grass huh? i will keep an eye on you
c: ted alvy died? oh no. i knew him
llanwydd: who was ted alvy?
Principalpoop: goodness
c: when did that happen. he emailed me quite often
c: he played a character in Neal Amid. i visited him at his parents house in van nuys
Merlyn: Yeah, I remember the UK gig
Ben Bland: I don't have the info handy. I got a very nice e-mail from his brother-in-law
c: ted was a major firesign fan/firend. he had a show on kppc when they were doing their Hour Hour show there
SouthBySouthTweeny: They're dropping like flies :/
c: let me know, ben. i thought he was a great guy
H Stones: with a bit of luck we may be able to get either a repeat of their live show or something else by FT
Ben Bland: the legendary KPPC in Pasadena, California
c: i knew he was a dj in seattle for a while, but mostly in la
c: before that he was b.mitchel reid's producer when i was hanging out with reid in 68
c: en i was a student of radio production at usc
H Stones: how are clem and Bambi taking it ?
Ben Bland: Harry Shearer and Phil Austin have acknowledged Ted Alvy's passing
c: where, ben?
c: harry also had a show, Destination Music on kppc at that time
c: did you know ted, ben?
Ben Bland: ...and Peter Bergman. Today is my 55th birthday. When you're my age on your birthday you attend wakes.
llanwydd: happy birthday, ben
c: yes, ben. many more
Principalpoop: i will be 55 in april, thanks for the advice ben
H Stones: same from over here Ben
c: i'll be 61 in a few weeks, inshallah
Principalpoop: back in elementary school having that extra month is big seniority
llanwydd: I'll be 51 in quite a few weeks
Principalpoop: quiet kid
H Stones: wehn we lose good guys like the above, i regard it as all the more reason to stick around and cause trouble
c: well said, stones
Ben Bland: My only association with Ted Alvy was when he contacted me requesting that I update his URL on my page of FST fan links. http://www.well.com/user/silly/firesign.html
Principalpoop: I saw peter did a stint in the army, oh my hehe
Ben Bland: Which I did, very eventually. My head is wedged so far up Second Life it isn't even funny
c: yes, he spoke of it often on the radio, poop.
Merlyn: I'll be 55 in May
c: one of my favourite bits from Hour Hour is him talking with ausitn about their army days and telling listeners to avoid service.
||||||||| Catherwood tiptoes into the room, and pipes up "Announcing 'NO_anchovies', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 9:22 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the anteroom...
Principalpoop: another 55, we need to form a group, 55 and still alive
NO_anchovies: He only been inside a week, and he knows that his wife is sleepin' with th' bees...!
c: the next week Hour Hour was off the air. i thoughtmaybe the army had cmplained
||||||||| Catherwood tiptoes into the room, and announces "Announcing 'Elayne', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 9:22 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the vestibule...
Elayne: Evenin' all.
llanwydd: good evening, NO
Principalpoop: hey E, no anchovies
H Stones: hi Elayne
Elayne: Dex won't be here this evening, he's in Florida.
c: merl put that clip from my old reel tape on the firesign site. but really should use a pristine clip from Duke instead
c: hi el
llanwydd: Hi Elayne
Principalpoop: ahh that is right, he told us
c: must be slightly warmer than nyc, el
NO_anchovies: howdy squashes... speak up, you're whisperin'.
H Stones: i am glad i got my anchovies wholesale, it saves a lot of visits to Walmart
llanwydd: didn't bring his laptop with him?
Elayne: Did everyone read my friend Jill's remembrance of Peter? (She's the one who first got me into Firesign.)
Ben Bland: Phil Austin was the most dangerous private until the Wikileaks guy. "Mr. R Clem, Mr. R Clem, please report to the hospitality shelter..."
Elayne: http://brilliantatbreakfast.blogspot.com/2012/03/maybe-ill-see-you-on-funway.html
llanwydd: you have wal-mart in england, stones?
Elayne: I think WalMart in England is Asda, yes?
NO_anchovies: they sure as hell took a leak on him.
SouthBySouthTweeny: That's really nice, Elayne
Principalpoop: that was cool E, dog wants out brb
Elayne: It brought back a lot of great memories, Tween. I really have Jill to thank for me "meeting" all of you.
SouthBySouthTweeny: FST certainly became part of the culture, and has affected all our lives. I only hope that the show's not over.
c: beautiful, el. did you hear that ted alvy died? i met him thru your mag
Elayne: Where she mentions Mr. Brilliant, that was sort of my thanks for her introducing me to Firesign, I introduced her to him. :)
Elayne: He was the fellow who printed INSIDE JOKE at the time.
c: and this chat comes from that, el
Elayne: No Cat, I hadn't heard. Wow, there's a name I've not heard for a long time.
H Stones: thats correct Elaayne, they bought ASDA which is associated dairies a few yeas back
Elayne: Kris Gilpin got back in touch with me, he might be stopping by one of these weeks.
c: i visited him in van nuys in 97 and recorded his voice for neal amid. we've been in touch ever since. i heard from him recently
NO_anchovies: very cool Elayne, thanx.
Ben Bland: The Wikileaks guy reminds me of Radar O'Reilly. Some pundit must have noticed the similarity by now.
llanwydd: I've got an actor friend in van nuys
c: ted, harry shearer and firesign were all on kppc at the same time in 1970
c: but ted wasn't that old.
llanwydd: used to be a vermont actor but he "took the plunge" and moved to hollywood
c: of course, the same can be said of bergman.
c: did any of you hear today's interview with fred willard on maron's show?
c: he talks about being 70 in the same way.
c: was in at least one movie with bergman
llanwydd: haven't heard fred willard in years
Elayne: I don't think any boomers turning 70 really think of themselves as old. "We" were the young generation. (And we had something to say...)
c: really a bummer maron never interviewed bergman for his podcast
c: fred remains very active. great pal of proctor';s
c: i had forgotten that willard was in sctv, breifly, after hustling eugene levy to let him in
llanwydd: 70 isn't old these days
c: i'm only 60 and i'm extremely old. my wife is the same age and she's much younger
c: dex was born 15 years before me, but remains my junior
llanwydd: I believe dex is older than that, cat
Elayne: I know Fred Willard from Fernwood Tonight, that's how far back I got. :)
Elayne: Dex is older than 70, yes.
llanwydd: I remember Fernwood Tonight with Martin Mull
llanwydd: whatever became of martin mull?
c: he's from cleveland, just like bergman
Elayne: Mull's still around.
Elayne: Maybe he's retired.
c: proc/berg, the cred gap and willard's ace trucking co made a suprisingly lame flick about an earthquake
c: listen to today's wtf podcast for the latest on willard. glad he's still healthy.
llanwydd: in sensuround?
H Stones: since the fiery outburst from the sun, my broadband has been hosed
NO_anchovies: Catherwood, see if Mull is still mulling around?
||||||||| Catherwood walks over to NO_anchovies and mumbles "Did you want me?"
Principalpoop: back, I still see him in stuff, willard and mull, i have not seen mary hartman for a while
llanwydd: I'm having some etoufee. leftovers from last night's dinner
H Stones: just been talking with Honey Sanchez in NM, the flares also seemed to wipe out her servers too so we cannot use skype which is now officially a pile of pants
llanwydd: I used to be on a zero cholestrol diet but I've modified it a bit
Principalpoop: is that shrimp?
llanwydd: crawfish
NO_anchovies: Solar Flares in the Hemlock's wares?
Elayne: A short Google search turns up that he's really into art now.
Principalpoop: poor honey, wrap her servers in aluminum foil like I do, aluminium i guess to you
Principalpoop: use prawns
H Stones: can anyone read this ?
llanwydd: I can eat most seafood because it doesn't have saturated fat. I've had trouble with my cholestrol
Principalpoop: read what? no
H Stones: since the flares my broadband is pants
H Stones: same for Honey who cannot get an ;uplink
c: is this the first post firesign chat?
||||||||| Around 9:39 PM, H Stones walks off into the sunset...
Principalpoop: i had to replace my modem, i blame the flares, but it was 4 years old
||||||||| "9:39 PM? 9:39 PM!!" says Catherwood, "H Stones should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as H Stones enters and sits in the comfy chair.
NO_anchovies: IF YOU CAN READ THIS, you're too close...,
Principalpoop: wb sier
llanwydd: you have to replace a modem every four years? that sucks
llanwydd: I wouldn't know. I have the internet on my tv
Principalpoop: my pcs rarely last that long
H Stones: my modem is rented
c: i will need to replace this dieing computer soonest
H Stones: so they replace them if anything goes wrong but the flares hosed my system and the same for Honey in NM, she cannot get aan uplink
SouthBySouthTweeny: They made my buy my U-Verse modem. $100, the bastardes
Principalpoop: do it before you must, so you don't lose stuff
llanwydd: I almost got a computer from a rent-a-center
H Stones: Skype is now mostlye a thing of the past
SouthBySouthTweeny: I'm glad to have the improved speed, but truth be told I was perfectly happy with my old slow DSL
c: how are things in austin these days, tween? it seems to be the centre of attention
Principalpoop: mine was 70 usd, 4 years, cheaper than renting
SouthBySouthTweeny: Oh man, LL, wrong way to go, buddy :(
H Stones: Honey says its alright to give out her number for those who want to talk
SouthBySouthTweeny: Yeah South By Southwest Festival in full-swing
Elayne: Tweeny, you didn't go and rent yourself out as a hotspot, did you?
SouthBySouthTweeny: www.sxsw.com - folks from all over the world
Elayne: I mean, a hotSHOT, sure, but a hotspot?
llanwydd: well, I know that now, tween
SouthBySouthTweeny: No, E, I did not
Principalpoop: putting gspots on homeless people in austin or something
c: slavery 2.0
H Stones: you can get her on 505-504-3644
SouthBySouthTweeny: I actually don't use their wi-fi. I have my own routher
SouthBySouthTweeny: *router
Principalpoop: roughter rather rooter
SouthBySouthTweeny: People have been doing quite well renting out rooms in their homes.
SouthBySouthTweeny: Some of the hotel rooms here are going for $700/night
H Stones: hello anyone still there
c: wow
NO_anchovies: router by th' hour.
Principalpoop: we see you stones
H Stones: phew, thanks for that, its very unreliable nowadays
llanwydd: I tried to look at your link, tween and it shut down my msntv2
H Stones: it suppose its going to be like this for most of the year
Ben Bland: I'm off for birthday sushi. I'll try to act like I'm having a good time. Peter Bergman. He wuz the Davy Jones of comedy
llanwydd: Have a great time, Ben
Ben Bland: Truth be told I'm seriously bummed out
Principalpoop: hip hip hoorah ben
Elayne: Happy birthday, Ben, I envy you your sushi!
Ben Bland: Depressed
llanwydd: don't let it get you, man
Ben Bland: Thanks for trying
c: eat well, be well, ben
llanwydd: come on back next week
NO_anchovies: Birthday Sushi? don't forget the whipped-cream.
||||||||| At 9:47 PM, Ben Bland hurries out the door saying "Hey, mister ice-cream man, I've got a nickel, wait for meeeee..."
Principalpoop: hang in there, if you knew sushi, like I knew sushi...
llanwydd: I almost bought sushi tonight
H Stones: cheer yourself up Ben, find some twat who need a good bollocking and dont open fire till you see the whites of their eyes
Elayne: By the way, I spoke with Dex day before yesterday and he hadn't heard about Peter at ALL.
NO_anchovies: are we bollocking now, i thought it was rogering...?
SouthBySouthTweeny: Wow, amazing that Dex wouldn't have known
SouthBySouthTweeny: It was even in the mainstream media
llanwydd: well, don't tell him till he comes back from his vacation
NO_anchovies: Dex wasn't in the chat last week? dang. there were so many i didn't notice.
c: el, i thought he wasnt on chat last sat and someone here said he was
H Stones: maybe no one told DEx because they thought he was bound to know about it
llanwydd: I found out about it at progressiveears.com of all places. a website about progressive rock
c: yeah, when phil was hear on sat, he mentioned being in ny times obit
Elayne: That was what I figured, Stones.
c: they had phoned him earlier that day
Elayne: No Cat, he hadn't been on chat on Saturday. I told him about that too.
NO_anchovies: Llan... FT is Progressive Rock.
Principalpoop: fong will check his email when he gets home, that is how I found out
llanwydd: lol. I'll mull that over, N_a
c: i didnt see him, but there were MANY people here. all of us bummed out
Principalpoop: it was a shock, goodness, still is
llanwydd: maybe not rock but certainly progressive
Elayne: So people knew on chat last week?
c: no goodness involved, poop
Elayne: I thought folks didn't find out until Friday.
llanwydd: no, he died on friday
c: i just listened to shearer call him the father of modern hip comedy
Principalpoop: goodness instead of saying godfrey daniels or god damn
NO_anchovies: but there was chat on Friday.
c: he died on friday morning, right? i got emails from taylor and phil a when i woke up
NO_anchovies: saturday, even.
Principalpoop: yes, I went to chat friday night after I saw the email, lots of folks already, but it was late
c: understood, poop
H Stones: did anyone see the beutiful conjunction of Venus and Jupiter this week /
Principalpoop: i don't believe in ufos stones
llanwydd: no, stones. how beautiful was it?
NO_anchovies: Venus & Jupiter.... was there a bollocking involved?
H Stones: dmmit, i think i have lost you again, i will try calling Honey again
c: i thought venus conjoined with everybody
Elayne: Cat, I believe he passed Thursday night, by the light of the fool moon.
c: i have a radio show from 68 or bergman talking about venus
||||||||| Catherwood trudges in at 9:54 PM, dragging Ben Bland by one foot and asks "Can anyone vouch for this yahoo?"
Elayne: I was on the chat briefly, I think it was Friday.
c: that makes sense, el
Elayne: Might have been Saturday.
Principalpoop: that was fast, they tried to serve you charlie the tuna?
Elayne: Hey Ben, what kind of sushi do we have tonight? Any unagi? That's my favorite.
c: i was in washington state most of friday
llanwydd: I remember him talking about the myoon
NO_anchovies: Men are from Mars, but Venus wants penus...
c: blog post about that trip to come
Principalpoop: any trouble at the border?
c: after the magic mushroom rfo show ended, bergman had this 1 hour syndicated show early in 68
llanwydd: what is unagi, Elayne?
Ben Bland: http://davyjones.net/images/djpics/davy_cap.jpg http://30daysout.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/peterbergman1sfsdf-422x640.jpg They nearly looked alike in 1968, didn't they?
Elayne: Llan, it's eel.
c: no firesign, no funny. mostly bergman riffing on velikovsky
llanwydd: I usually buy a combination of tuna/red salmon sushi
Ben Bland: Nite again
llanwydd: aha
Principalpoop: everybody looked like that back then hehe
||||||||| Ben Bland is thrown out the window just as the clock strikes 9:57 PM.
c: i was very straight looking in 68. just looking
Principalpoop: europeans love eel, not me
llanwydd: I was a rather straight-looking child in 68
llanwydd: I don't know if I've ever had eel
SouthBySouthTweeny: Weren't we all
Principalpoop: by 72 you had sideburns and long hair, if possible
SouthBySouthTweeny: I was in a military school
NO_anchovies: what's the difference between a fighting clown, and a fighting monkee...?
llanwydd: I would have been about 6 or 7 and completely unaware of fst
c: i wish i could say that, llan
Elayne: Oh,BBQ eel is very TASTY
SouthBySouthTweeny: By '73, haircuts were not a priority ;)
SouthBySouthTweeny: Never had it
SouthBySouthTweeny: Have had BBQ gator
llanwydd: back in 68 I thought the vietnam war was a just cause
NO_anchovies: BBQ Monkee?
Principalpoop: so you don't recall yoko ono screaming with the plastic ono band?
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 10 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
llanwydd: I didn't hear yoko scream till the late 80s actually
Elayne: Oy, 10 o'clock? I should be moseying. Next week, all!
Principalpoop: hehehe
Principalpoop: ciao E
NO_anchovies: are folks still picking on Yoko? can we pick on Gail Zappa instead?
c: by el
||||||||| "Hey Elayne!" ... Elayne turns, and sees Bradshaw approching with the handcuffs, and is dragged away, screaming "it's only 10:00 PM, I don't have to go yet!"...
llanwydd: Nite Elayne
llanwydd: who's picking on yoko?
Principalpoop: you would first have to explain who gail zappa is
NO_anchovies: * (FOOTNOTE) spouse of the late Frank Zappa.
Principalpoop: she broke up his band?
llanwydd: well, princi, if you hung out in the place that N_a and myself do, you would know about these things
c: a neighbour of phil austin. he mentions being at a party at his house with her on his blog
NO_anchovies told ya
Principalpoop: zappa was too far out for me, i can admit it
c: a girl i was in love with in high school turned me on to zappa
llanwydd: yeah, yeah, yeah and gail zappa broke up the mothers and oona broke up the firesign theatre
NO_anchovies: that makes Zappa more far out than FT? interesting.
c: bergman talked about zappa appearing on a 66 rfo show on one of this weeks' rfo episodes
Principalpoop: i don't mind ideas bouncing around, but sounds doing it confuse me
c: where him and ossman are discussing the origins of the show
llanwydd: and jack benny shot oswald and oswald shot harriet
Principalpoop: what about Agnes?
c: the motheres changed members as often as frank changed clothes
c: i read a book about him recently
NO_anchovies: what about Betty-Joe Bialowsky?
llanwydd: you don't mean, nancy
Principalpoop: big mothers in a holding company? something like that
NO_anchovies: ONO!
llanwydd: a book about who, cat
Merlyn: Don't be mean to Nancy!
llanwydd: LOL, Merl
c: zappa
c: you're back, merl
llanwydd: aha
Principalpoop: is this your boudoir nancy? no, it is the kennels
c: are you going to bergman's funeral? has it already occured?
NO_anchovies: puttin' on th' dog, eh?
llanwydd: seems there would be a difference between kennels and a boudoir
Principalpoop: cages for her BDSM fun llan
NO_anchovies: unless you're a Boudoir Collie?
c: bambi and kennels?
llanwydd: LOL
Principalpoop: ahh putting on thedog huh?
NO_anchovies -)
llanwydd: I'll say, where are all the
Principalpoop: lool
NO_anchovies: a little slow on the re-uptake, are we Poop?
||||||||| It's 10:10 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| H Stones - dead from measles
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
c: god said to abraham, kill me a son. abe said man, you must be putting me on
Principalpoop: no, huh, yah
llanwydd: my third favorite album, cat
llanwydd: and what an amazing album in many ways
c: 2nd for me, llan
c: i used that line in my play Box of Time, if anyone knows it
c: ausitn is in it.
llanwydd: haven't heard box of time. only neal amid
c: god said no, abe said what, god said you can do what you want abe but, the next time you see me comin you better run
Principalpoop: women are the niggers of the world, now how could that offend anybody?
llanwydd: and what is great about that album? can you really put your finger on it?
NO_anchovies: well, that's the good song on that album., the rest is kind of a wank.
c: my fave album is vince guaraldi at grace cathedral. you like what you like, its subjective
NO_anchovies: Guaraldi was great.
c: i couldnt disagree more, no.
Principalpoop: in terms of frequence, I guess sweet baby james by james taylor is my favorite
llanwydd: which album do you mean, No_a?
Principalpoop: frequency, listened to it thousands of times
NO_anchovies: if it weren't for Vince, Jazz musicians wouldn't have anything to play for the holidays... :-|
c: it takes a lot to laugh is my fave dylan song
llanwydd: well, cat that's my favorite song from that album
c: they would have to redo old carols
llanwydd: I like the "concert for bangladesh" version just a little better though
c: if i die on top of the hill
NO_anchovies: all great stuff. James Taylor's great, and Lennon's great, tho' the STINY album is a bit of a ? (help me out here?)
c: if i don't make it, i know my baby will
c: stiny?
NO_anchovies: another great version of "It takes a train to cry" is on Kooper's "Super Session"
c: i dont know if memorizing firesign helped me memorize dylan, or memorizing dylan helped me memorize firesign but they worked in tandem for me in late 60s, ealry 70s
c: indeed, no. another great album
llanwydd: I didn't have to memorize either, they were like earworms but in a good way
Principalpoop: shaved fished collected all the good stuff from those years and albums, 2nd try to send
NO_anchovies: which reminds me... i also like the first BS&T album... before they kicked Al Kooper out.
c: there was a lot of good music in those days.
c: maybe still is, just dont listen to new music
llanwydd: well, if it weren't for 60s music we wouldn't have 70s music
SouthBySouthTweeny: The Super Session album was quite a band
Principalpoop: guite a segue indeed
c: fish collect albums? do they have turntables undersea?
NO_anchovies: nah... the new stuff sucks! :-)
SouthBySouthTweeny: I want to know who's responsible for disco
c: thatrs like saying if we werent alive before, we wouldnt be now
Principalpoop: which is true C hehe
NO_anchovies: exactly.
llanwydd: KC and the Sunshine Band are the ones to blame
llanwydd: not that the bee gees weren't conspirators
SouthBySouthTweeny: That was a horrible thing to do to music
Principalpoop: then you have to blame the nighthawks too
SouthBySouthTweeny: I like the Bee Gees before and after the disco era
NO_anchovies: there's nothing wrong with dance music, but yeah, as a rule, Disco was rather nasty.
llanwydd: not familiar with the nighthawks
SouthBySouthTweeny: The Nighthawks is a blues band from DC
SouthBySouthTweeny: I assure you, they have _nothing_ to do with disco
Principalpoop: walking in rhythm, moving in style...
llanwydd: you could have danced to steely dan
llanwydd: most of it anyway
SouthBySouthTweeny: You must be thinking of someone else
c: the bee gees used to be a psychadelic band. i remember first hearing them on rfo in 67.
SouthBySouthTweeny: Steely Dan is a whole different proposition, and I have nothing against dancable music, per se
Principalpoop: is that right? my god then went disco
NO_anchovies: well, there's a completely different band called "Vince Giordano's Nighthawks" which specializes in real OLD oldies. 20's & 30's music. great stuff.
llanwydd: "how can you mend the broken heart..."
SouthBySouthTweeny: Odessa was a very good Bee Gees album
NO_anchovies: early BeeGees was very cool.
Principalpoop: that is herman hermits
llanwydd: I knew nothing of 60 Bee Gees until I became an oldies DJ in 1990
llanwydd: 60s I mean
SouthBySouthTweeny: Their early stuff was Moodies/Beatles sort of genre
NO_anchovies: other way 'round
Principalpoop: bubblegum was an attempt to stay in the 60s
llanwydd: bubblegum was an attempt to sell records
c: i know bergman liked them. he played them on his show. he would never play anything he didnt like
NO_anchovies: meaning: THOU SHALT HAVE NO GODS B4 THE BEATLES
c: he wanted to found the beatles of comedy. and he succeeded.
llanwydd: too bad there was no FSTMania
c: and like his first vision, they didnt all dress alike
NO_anchovies: there's FST mania... just a much smaller scale.
c: only for those hip enough to enjoy them, llan. and that was a rather large number of people
Principalpoop: that is like asking that all students be english lit majors hehe
NO_anchovies: HINT: it's US, peep'le...
llanwydd: US +
llanwydd: I own the idea of you
NO_anchovies: we own the idea of Mania.
llanwydd: LOL, NO
Principalpoop: they never became corporate, they should have incorporated, like the beatles
c: i think the firesign are an antidote to mania
llanwydd: good point, cat
c: i thikn they tried to sell out. but not very hard
NO_anchovies: We Own The Antidote
Principalpoop: antidote? ahh ok, a sidestep or something
c: they've done a variety of commercials, for example. i think the last ones were for pizza hut
Principalpoop: they made fun of the straights and the hippies
NO_anchovies: Jack Poet.
SouthBySouthTweeny: That Rat In A Box commercial is really funny
SouthBySouthTweeny: Love the Poet commercials
llanwydd: Pizza Hut?! are you serious?
Principalpoop: why not? next door to Ihop
NO_anchovies: so was "Sneezer's Chicken"
c: i thikn they're inherently too subversive to every find buyers to sell out to
llanwydd: lol
c: they did a series of nick danger parody ads for stuffed crust pizza. good ads, terrible pizza
Principalpoop: yes C, if you ask too many questions, you are not any good for anybody
NO_anchovies: yeah, the pizza had anchovies.
llanwydd: how long ago was that, cat?
c: i thkn their Pyro Production company was specifically to market their humour for real ads
c: about the time of Radio Now, late 90s
llanwydd: Pizza Hut should have had a variety called "Nick's Swell"
Principalpoop: roccos with extra anchovies
Principalpoop: oops rococos
llanwydd: the "Flat Things With Eyes" special
c: if merl gets back to chat, you can ask him where the pizza hut ads are. i think they'r eon the firesign site, somewhere
Principalpoop: the jack poet clips showing up all over the place
c: ted alvy one sent me a cd full of fiesign ads from the 60s. they did a lot
c: jack poet was almost as weird as them. no i mear ads for real companies
c: ihop was one. carnation instant breakfast, a stereo company i forget. thre were several companies
llanwydd: well, I've got to be going. see you next week.
Principalpoop: LA is a different place, i will leave it at that
Principalpoop: night llan, good luck
c: you know what volkswagon did to jack poet when he aired those ads?
c: by llan
||||||||| llanwydd leaves to catch the 10:38 PM train to Florida.
NO_anchovies: well, "Ralph Spoilsport Motors" was an ad format as well.
c: that was a parody of my dad's enemy, ralph williams.
Principalpoop: took away his franchaise? i see it is a CSV pharmacy there now
NO_anchovies: Jack Poet got send to the Bundestag?
c: their real ads were actual ads, were slightly hidden subversion
c: bergman's quote from one of the recent rfos, "fire those motherfuckers immediately"
Principalpoop: where lucy got the idea for the bad salad dressing commercial hehe
Principalpoop: so what did volkswagon do? come on now....
NO_anchovies: i bought one of those "Ralph Spoilsport" license-plate frames. it is proudly displayed on my RV.
c: vw didnt want any dealer more important than the vw product. dealers were never supposed to advertise themselves
c: they made sure he got rid of them, poop
Principalpoop: oki, i thought sue or something or took his dealership, ok
c: somehow "motherfucer" is not a term i'd expect from a 1969 german car executive to use
c: i think he did have the dealership stirpped from him but you'd have to ask austin when he reappears here. i'm just remembering what bergman said
Principalpoop: in german mudderfuckensteinershunds
NO_anchovies: nor is eating the heart of an Indian, something that Christ would've done.
Principalpoop: huh? what kind of indian?
c: that's why npr wouldnt play their thanksgiving show, right?
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood intones: "10:43 PM and late as usual, it's fordprefect, just back from Hellmouth."
Principalpoop: fordprefect, is that the hybred?
NO_anchovies: jeez Poop... if you don't know the "Pass The Indian" sketch?
fordprefect: erm, ?
Principalpoop: ok ok
Principalpoop: ease up there big fella ford
fordprefect: sorry, it's been such a long exposition,
Principalpoop: just use your thumb, like I do
NO_anchovies: it ain't gettin' any shorter.
fordprefect: heh
Principalpoop: we were just reminicing, remanicing, romanincing
c: from ralph williams ford to ford prefect
fordprefect: meant to be lurking, now I've exposed myself, yikes
c: in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, you['re on your own
Principalpoop: throw a towel over it
SouthBySouthTweeny: Hi ford
c: welcome , ford
c: chevy, studebaker
NO_anchovies: do some push-ups
SouthBySouthTweeny: Anytown, USA?
c: see the usa thru your turret bay!
fordprefect: speaking of voitures, (apparently) anyone have experience with the all -electric leaf?
fordprefect: Oh, that didn't come out right
SouthBySouthTweeny: leaf?
fordprefect: nissan
c: your anti-christler car will cut them off! (magic mushroom play A LIfe in the Day, origin of both 2 places and Dwarf)
SouthBySouthTweeny: Nope
SouthBySouthTweeny: I've heard that Ford is working on an all-electric Focus
Principalpoop: this a safe, non-judgemental zone, unless you are unfamiliar with the let them eat indian skit....
NO_anchovies: you mean "FOKE US"
Principalpoop: no, foke U
fordprefect: ford is most definitely NOT working here...
Principalpoop: what kind of cars did they drive in the 70s? corvettes?
NO_anchovies: good band, "Focus." dutch. flute... yodeling... great stuff.
Principalpoop: had the bosnia beat as I recall
c: my dad worked for ford for 25 years. an evil company
c: is this your first time here, ford?
NO_anchovies: maybe Jan Akkerman has a Volkswagen dealership in the Netherregions?
Principalpoop: our computer overlords will transform the concept of evil beyond recognition
SouthBySouthTweeny: You no like Ford, cease?
fordprefect: No, can you tell?
NO_anchovies: nope. i'll still be abke to recognize it.
Principalpoop: hehe
c: the car company, not the chatter, tween
fordprefect: peeked in during the initial RFO show
NO_anchovies: (but unable to find the "L" key, apparently)
Principalpoop: hate the behavior, not the person,
c: you mean when bergman was doing the show as a live podcast, ford?
c: i was here then. austin too. i think bergman's daughter also
fordprefect: and several subsequent chats, made it up to the Cascade (redding) show
fordprefect: and yes th live podcast i think i mean
SouthBySouthTweeny: I meant the car company, cease. I guess they mistreated your Dad?
fordprefect: think I might have accidentally bumped (inot? off of? ) fountain that night
c: indeed, tween
SouthBySouthTweeny: Sorry to hear
fordprefect: ohh god help my typing fu it's gone wayyy south
NO_anchovies: okay fello Bozorts, past my budtime. cya's next time.
SouthBySouthTweeny: I like the fact that they wouldn't accept Federal bail-out money
SouthBySouthTweeny: Later, NA, rest well
||||||||| NO_anchovies is kicked out just as the clock strikes 10:58 PM.
c: by no
Principalpoop: ciao no anchovies
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 11 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Merlyn: me too, bye
||||||||| At 11:00 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, Merlyn!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
c: back to the shadows again, merl
Principalpoop: night m
SouthBySouthTweeny: Everyone have a great week, and listen to lots of Bergman. Until last time, again...
||||||||| At 11:01 PM, SouthBySouthTweeny runs out the door saying "Hey, mister ice-cream man, I've got a nickel, wait for meeeee..."
c: we will tween
Principalpoop: ciao tween
Principalpoop: i guess that is the bus, night all
||||||||| Around 11:02 PM, Principalpoop walks off into the sunset...
fordprefect: thanks for all the laughs, folks.
c: off we flit
||||||||| At 11:02 PM, fordprefect vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
c: see you here again ford, i hope
||||||||| "11:02 PM? I'm late!" exclaims c, who then runs out through the french doors and down through the garden.
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:32 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."


The Evening's Participants:
Ben Bland
c
Elayne
fordprefect
H Stones
llanwydd
Merlyn
NO_anchovies:
HINT
NO_anchovies
Principalpoop
SouthBySouthTweeny
URL References:
http://30daysout.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/peterbergman1sfsdf-422x640.jpg
http://brilliantatbreakfast.blogspot.com/2012/03/maybe-ill-see-you-on-funway.html
http://davyjones.net/images/djpics/davy_cap.jpg
http://www.seemrealland.blogspot.com/
www.sxsw.com
http://www.well.com/user/silly/firesign.html



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