Weekly Firesign Chat Cheese Log

A Firesign Chat
07/14/2005

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||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:33 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for July 14, 2005 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood intones: "12:19 PM and late as usual, it's quique, just back from Billville."
quique: hello
quique: there're some people here?
||||||||| quique hurries out the back door as Mayor P'nisnose blasts through the front door holding a shotgun and shouting "Where's quique?! It's 12:20 PM and my ballot boxes haven't been stuffed yet!"
||||||||| Catherwood stumbles in at 3:08 PM, dragging Leo by one foot and asks "Can anyone vouch for this idiot?"
Leo: I'm here. What is this place?
Leo: Ok. There may be no one here and I may be happy talking to myself
Leo: but I have to go and wash my newspaper. I'll be back. Where will you be?
||||||||| Leo is forcibly ejected just as the clock strikes 3:11 PM.
||||||||| Catherwood escorts doctecazoid inside, makes a note of the time (7:54 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
||||||||| Catherwood escorts Merlyn into the room, accepts a wooden nickel as a gratuity, mutters something about 7:55 PM, then departs.
Merlyn: hiya doc
doctecazoid: hi gang, lili just shaved her head as a pre-emptive strike since her hair started shedding a couple of days ago as a result of her chemo sessions. i'm back from bloomington, having had a great week with bubba's brain & co.
doctecazoid: i need to get some dinner together so i may be away for a chunk of tonight's chat
doctecazoid: oh, and merl: i finally got my own ipod, i will be downloading the new podcast-aware itunes software and giving the firesign podcast a whirl. i'll let you know how i make out, and i'm interested in seeing how you set all that stuff up. you've done a great job with it, kudos to your technical expertise.
Merlyn: ok thanks; I tried to add the itunes tags (mostly so it'll have a picture for the itunes website) but if I add it, itunes doesn't seem to like how it parses.
Merlyn: made a picture for it, too: http://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/podcasting/firepod.jpg
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 8 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
doctecazoid: cool pic - i assume it's from the atc cd (a copy of which i produred from bubba while in bloomington)
doctecazoid: anyway, i'm away for the moment as i get some grub together for ChemoLili and myself. i'll check in later. again, great work you are doing on the site.
Merlyn: yeah, with a title. The itunes site has little icons for each podcast site, but you need to use their format, and like I say it doesn't like what I've tried so far.
Merlyn: ok, hope lili keeps her appetite up
||||||||| Catherwood escorts llanwydd inside, makes a note of the time (8:05 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
llanwydd: good evening
||||||||| 8:07 PM: Dr. Headphones jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past hour!"
Dr. Headphones: good evening, dear friends
llanwydd: hey kend
Dr. Headphones: howzit goin', mr. ll
llanwydd: not bad. you?
Dr. Headphones: things have been both better and worse. above average, i'd say for the moment
||||||||| Catherwood walks up and intones "Presenting 'TX Tweeny', just granted probation at 8:08 PM", then leaves hurriedly.
Dr. Headphones: we're about to get a toad-strangler here, lots of thunder, lights have dimmed a few times recently
Dr. Headphones: hey, txt
llanwydd: we had rain up my way too
TX Tweeny: Michigan? We've had the first serious thunderstorms in over a month. Hot and dry here.
Dr. Headphones: earlier this week, we got remnants of herr, er, hurricane dennis
Dr. Headphones: yes, tweeny, been dry here too. grass breaks when you walk on lawn. corn leaves all curled up
TX Tweeny: Don't want to spoil anybody's fun...
Dr. Headphones: fun? the fun hasn't started yet, so go ahead
llanwydd: I keep my plants watered whether it rains or not
Merlyn: do it hurrcane sty;e
Merlyn: style
TX Tweeny: A fair for all, and no fare for anybody!
Dr. Headphones: your statement sounds almost ominous. don't tell me karl rove has been nominated to SCOTUS
llanwydd: don't know rove
TX Tweeny: You like Congress? Watch this...
Dr. Headphones: speaking of rove (et al), a nice compendium of facts here: http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004870.php and here: http://www.perrspectives.com/resources/documents.htm
Dr. Headphones: well, now that i think about it, kurt, you might have sent me those ;)
llanwydd: is he a roving reporter/
||||||||| Elayne enters at 8:13 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and hurries off to the Chapeau Manger.
Elayne: Evenin' all!
TX Tweeny: Evenin' E.
Dr. Headphones: if not, then use and enjoy. you know the drill: lather, rinse, repeat
llanwydd: Hi E
Dr. Headphones: hey el
Merlyn: hi e
||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and cease disembarks at 8:14 PM.
Dr. Headphones: uh, chapeau manger? should that be "manager"?
Elayne: Brian, thanks so much for that flag-burning game! It was my Silly Site on my blog today.
Elayne: Evenin' Cat!
Dr. Headphones: hiya, cat and a hearty meow to you
llanwydd: wouldn't it be "cheveax manger"?
TX Tweeny: Listening to Motown's tribue to Marvin Gaye. Missing You.
TX Tweeny: Decist.
llanwydd: hi cat
cease: hey folks. i just heard dwarf on the majority report
Dr. Headphones: speaking of flag burning, i got 9 score. is that good or bad?
Elayne: I find if you just keep the rocket launcher in one position rather than trying to move it, you hit fewer flags. :)
cease: i had 11 but i dont know how one scores on the bush canon thing
TX Tweeny: Speaking of burning the Constitution...
Dr. Headphones: i couldn't even move it. tried everything
cease: it was on the ad for pyramind, about grace cathedral (home of my favourite album) going green. the powerhouse church riff was playing in the background of the piece
cease: i wonder of the firesigns know this
Elayne: When I went through the first time I got something like 14 or 15. Second time I got 7 (but by then I knew all the answers for the first two parts).
llanwydd: I'll keep the constitution if nothing else. It comes in handy
TX Tweeny: Stevie Wonder and Firesign? LoL!!
Dr. Headphones: cat: we elect you to tell them :)
cease: you should look into that, merl
cease: i see doc was here? i wonder if he got my email from yest.
Dr. Headphones: haven't even turned on tv here, have jazz on radio. very nice improv version of "someday my prince will come" on piano
cease: i'd love to and i suppose i can phone them. the problem is that my email address for them dont work no more.
llanwydd: dwight yest?
cease: both phils, i tried to email about my mini-review of bozos on my blog. both were returned, no such address
Merlyn: your score is the number of years you get in prison
Dr. Headphones: uh oh, email rebellion among the 4 or 5?
TX Tweeny: Well, the planet's going down jones. Perhaps Mr. Bush would accept Kyoto?
Dr. Headphones: ah, 9 years in prison. i'll be ready for retirement then at 62!
||||||||| Catherwood sneaks into the room, and pipes up "Announcing 'professorPloop', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 8:18 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the sitting room...
Dr. Headphones: hey professore
professorPloop: good eveeening
TX Tweeny: That's the spirit...
cease: hey el, i posted pix of my cats on the blog last week. did you see them?
llanwydd: I knew a guy named Ploop once
professorPloop: that new flash intro is super, cool, far out and groovy man
TX Tweeny: Everything is different now...
cease: i'll take pix of the dogs and post em tomorrow.
Merlyn: new? it's 3 years old
Dr. Headphones: speaking of cat pics, i will try to post one of most of the cats here. if successful, will post link
professorPloop: was ploop his first or last name?
TX Tweeny: Ruff, ruff.. It's on the roof!
||||||||| Catherwood steals into the room, and intones "Announcing 'klokwkdog-XVI', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 8:19 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the sitting room...
professorPloop: with the albums and snips?
Elayne: Cat, I'm so behind in my blog-skimming, I haven't really read that much since last Thursday.
TX Tweeny: Hey dogman...
klokwkdog-XVI: bonjour everyone!
klokwkdog-XVI: off with your heads!
llanwydd: a knick kname actually
professorPloop: click klok
Elayne: I took a nice picture of some swans earlier this week, as I was driving past a park in New Rochelle. I'm going to post them tomorrow.
llanwydd: hey klok
TX Tweeny: Napoleon Brandeise?
Elayne: Evenin' klok!
Elayne: Happy Bastille Day!
Dr. Headphones: hi kolk
Dr. Headphones: er klok
professorPloop: yes, don't forget to baste your tille
Elayne: I should change my moniker in response. How do you do accented letters?
Dr. Headphones: bastille day? damn, it's my pretend 30th anniversary today if i were still married
llanwydd: you should be the last of the line klok
Elayne: I want to type "Helene" but with accents on the first two e's.
klokwkdog-XVI: if Ken has not announced, I'll do so or reiterate: Ash is attending some NY theatrical presentation and won't appeared tonight maybe, perhaps
cease: i heard dex is away today. hi klok
TX Tweeny: List of the things the Airplane did wrong... comparing Jesus to Cleaver.
klokwkdog-XVI hopes to persist thru XVIII... ;-)
||||||||| Around 8:21 PM, Elayne walks off into the sunset...
||||||||| Catherwood steals into the room, and announces "Announcing 'Hélène', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 8:21 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the Aviary...
cease: and our cni friends are elsewhere tonight?
Hélène: Ah, just copy/paste, that was easy.
professorPloop: no fong tonight in my coffee, no fong tonight
llanwydd: Eldridge or Beaver?
TX Tweeny: Did anybody ever tell you to go to Helen Hunt?
Hélène: Mais non!
professorPloop: ahh ma cherie, come with me to the cashbar
Hélène: Mais non! :)
cease: merl, are you into bittorrent?
cease: i just read an article about it in a canuck mag.
professorPloop: july oui?
TX Tweeny: Mais oui, monsieur.
cease: the writer said he dosnt watch tv anymore, just bittorent, lots of shows we dont get in canada
cease: i relaly want to check that out
professorPloop: non non non take it to helen burnette
cease: you're a techie, klok. are you bittorenting?
llanwydd: not familiar with bittorent
TX Tweeny: Clapton - Journeyman. Not sure how it fits in with the chat. Just a suggestion.
llanwydd: I know butternut
professorPloop: eric - steve reed
TX Tweeny: I know how to pick cotton.
TX Tweeny: Places in the Heart.
cease: supposed to be like napster only a thousand times more bandwidth, for watching flicks and tv shows instead of music
professorPloop: p2p or ami et ami?
TX Tweeny: iTunes is a really good service. It'll probably get better.
llanwydd: Well, I finished up "The Tempest". Got my picture in the paper along with a great review.
Hélène: I'm not bittor at all...
professorPloop: I got burned with kazaaaaa, ouch
Hélène: Congrats, Llan!
cease: good for you, llan
professorPloop: how much does a good review cost nowadays? or did was the reporter full of fig wine?
TX Tweeny: Temporarily Travis County.
llanwydd: I don't know if he was drinking. But we didn't have to pay him
professorPloop: ahhh, you must have been good, congrats
professorPloop: I was moved by your solioquy in chat, I knew you would do fine on stage
TX Tweeny: As always, been fun guys and guyettes...
professorPloop: by porter wagoner lookalike
llanwydd: I'm auditioning on Saturday for a comedy called "The Foreigner" with a different company
professorPloop: is fong ok?
professorPloop: what is the part?
llanwydd: any porter in the storm
llanwydd: I'll take any part actually.
professorPloop: ahhh, there are no small parts
Hélène: Gotta go, want to watch the Yankes/Sox game and that's in the bedroom...
||||||||| Hélène rushes off, saying "8:31 PM? Mark Time is almost on! Where's a radio?"
llanwydd: have fun helen
professorPloop: helen was troyed away
cease: by el
||||||||| Hurricane Piano waltzes in at 8:33 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
professorPloop: hello piano
Hurricane Piano: Geez, got any fig wine? My Trojan horse is thirsty.
llanwydd: hi hp
professorPloop: doctor dog
Hurricane Piano: What haps about?
professorPloop: hehe he said trojan horse hehe
llanwydd: I finished the fig wine a couple of nights ago. Just broke open my latest sangria
professorPloop: what is in sangria?
Hurricane Piano: Moving on to another fermented fruit, llan?
cease: aha. i heard the word sangria and i responded. just refilled my glass
llanwydd: more fun to make than it is to drink
professorPloop: what if after figs, guavas?
Hurricane Piano: How Pavlovian of you, Cat
professorPloop: is
Dr. Headphones: damn, it's been so long since i've done anything with webpages, i can't remember what to do. i think the pic is in the right spot, i think i edited the HTML correclty, i thnk i published it, but still doesn't work
llanwydd: mine is courtesy of Ocean Spray. That's the main ingredient
Hurricane Piano: Works either way, PP
llanwydd: haven't tried guavas yet
Dr. Headphones: ooh, guavas are good. not sure if you can make wine, but i don't see why not
Hurricane Piano: Hey Ken - whasreal?
professorPloop: that is cranberries
llanwydd: you can make wine with any fruit
professorPloop: I drool often, but not sure of the stimulus
llanwydd: just make sure there are no preservatives or it won't ferment
Hurricane Piano: Tomatoes?
llanwydd: there is tomato wine
Hurricane Piano: NO kidding!
cease: i dont know what you mean by brewing your sangria, llan
professorPloop: old catsup?
cease: you ferment grapes and fruit together?
Dr. Headphones: hi jp, been trying to publish pic on webpage. think i have it now: http://webpages.charter.net/kendeb52/cats.html last pic taken this morning, 7/10 of all the cats who live in this house
llanwydd: speaking of tomatoes, I've got a tomato plant five feet tall in front of my house and it's still growing
Dr. Headphones: they like my waterbed
Dr. Headphones: llan: beware, they sometimes become carnivorous when large
llanwydd: but amazingly only two tomatoes growing on it so far. Just wait
||||||||| It's 8:40 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| TX Tweeny - dead from pneumonia
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
professorPloop: that is a lot of cats
Hurricane Piano: Holy crap - a whole lotta hairball moochers!
cease: kend, a quote from radio for you. a guy on the majority report earlier tonight, a trucker, said, "driving a truck is just prison with a better view"
professorPloop: that is not a lot of tomatoes
Dr. Headphones: llan: tomatoes don't "set" their blossoms unless nights are relatively cool
Dr. Headphones: lol, cat! like that one
professorPloop: the one on the middle on top is an imposter, that is a squirrel
Dr. Headphones: as you see, jp, i don't take a lot of time making the bed. just toss comforter up so claws don't impact mattress
llanwydd: we don't have any cool nights yet but in a few weeks
Hurricane Piano: The most cats I've shared space with was 3 - simultaneously with 3 dogs as well.
klokwkdog-XVI: sorry, got delayed by din preps and haven't been attentive...
Hurricane Piano: Been there, done that - claws and waterbed, that is. Dog nails made more of an impact in that department.
professorPloop: wb klok, tomato wine
Dr. Headphones: 10 cats here, 2 dogs (lab/boxer mix, dalmatian), 4 ferrets. it's a damned zoo for sure
klokwkdog-XVI: ...Ploop -- Dex is attending to a The-a-tre and won't be here or late
Hurricane Piano: Grandpa Klow, what's fer supper?
Hurricane Piano: Oops, KLOK...
professorPloop: ahh ok, thanks klok
Dr. Headphones: klok: pray attention or the consequences will be SEVERE!
cease: you use bittoreent, klok?
Hurricane Piano: Diet cola at twenty paces
professorPloop: I don't have enough cents to pay attention
llanwydd: There
Dr. Headphones: jp: have you tried cherry-vanilla dr pepper? it's surprisingly good
professorPloop: ahh I moved since last week, to martinsville
Dr. Headphones: and i rather like lime coke also
llanwydd: I meant to say, there's an idea
klokwkdog-XVI: cat - yes, I've tried Bittorrent. Not much success. You have to open a couple of ports in your router if you have one and there seems to be more to it than that and installing the client/server. But it's very popular. An article today in The Register worries about the security implications of having those ports open, can send link if ur interested. But I'm not much help on setup/debug, if that's what you mean
Hurricane Piano: Never been a Dr. P fan, Ken.
professorPloop: and i did not I had
llanwydd: cola wine!
cease: is that near lutherville and kingsville?
Hurricane Piano: However, I will agree on the lime trend.
klokwkdog-XVI: tacos, J Piano
professorPloop: I like dr p, 10 2 and 7
Hurricane Piano: Mmmmm, sounds good, Klok
professorPloop: steveston or lewiston
Hurricane Piano: And it goes well with the aforementioned sangria
Dr. Headphones: and i heard new ad for mickey d's today: mango/raspberry shake. of course, those ads have no power over me, i just got in car, drove straight there, and had a large one :)
cease: just the mag article i just read, klok. they author watches us and brit tv shows that otherwise arent broadcast here. i'd like to do that too.
llanwydd: King's Nose
cease: ive never seen space ghost and austin raves about it
klokwkdog-XVI: too many leftovers from last week, HP, so I had to do it again
Dr. Headphones: cat: i'm sure you can find (somewhere) a page of FAQs on it
Hurricane Piano: Moose meat tacos
Hurricane Piano: Kudzu wine?
cease: moose whiz beer. it's in the tundra!
llanwydd: That old kudzu wine growing in my mind
Hurricane Piano: Have you seen Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Cat?
Dr. Headphones: the voice of space ghost is personal friend of mine, i turned him on to FST back in 74 or so
professorPloop: terrier water, from the sparkling innards of a terrier
cease: thasts anohter one we dont get here
Merlyn: really phones? That's great!
cease: thankfully doc showed me sea lab when he and liili visited
Merlyn: I've seen a couple FT refs on spaceghost
Hurricane Piano: There are DVDs out of a lot of that Adult Swim/Cartoon Network stuff
cease: he was a guest on the majority report at least twice, kend
professorPloop: what channel is space ghost on? never heard of it
Dr. Headphones: aqua teen hunger force sounds like dolphin famine relief squad or something
Merlyn: one about sectors R and N
klokwkdog-XVI: good luck, Cat. I'm still experimenting with d/l TWIT via torrent. It's only 20MB or so, comes down fast enough the normal way. My ISP has fear of god from DSL folks, upped the peon class cable modem to 5 mbps; for the first 10-20 MB, it's more like 8!
Merlyn: space ghost is on cartoon network
Dr. Headphones: merl: probably because george loves them. we were both DJs at small AM radio station, played entire album sides of them at night when 250 watts, range about 3 miles or so
professorPloop: thanks, I will keep an eye open...
cease: now i use my computers mainly to listen to radio, air america, shearer, etc. i watch some vid on pot tv and add to it, but it's pretty low rez
Hurricane Piano: There's a block of programming on Cartoon Network at night called Adult Swim: along with reruns of Family Guy and Futurama they boast some perverse original shows
Dr. Headphones: i must say cartoon net isn't near the top of my hit parage
Merlyn: are they making new episodes, do you know?
Dr. Headphones: parade, sorry
professorPloop: I don't watch much tv at all
cease: yes but we dont get that channel in canada
Hurricane Piano: Space Ghost, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, Harvey Birdman
cease: some of those shows migrate to our cartoon channel, but not all
cease: we did get birdman briefly
Dr. Headphones: merl: not sure about that, haven't watched in long time
Merlyn: Space Ghost was a guest on Majority Report a few months back, and here's my question that they read on the air for him: "Are there still no deliveries to sectors R and N on Ghost Planet?"
Hurricane Piano: I don't make a habit of watching, but when I do see them inevitable laughter
Merlyn: that log is at http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/001992.php
professorPloop: you gave us kids on the block and 2nd city tv, the shows fall south lol
cease: i think i heard that when i was in la, merl
Dr. Headphones: for those wondering, denver dave is well, chatting with him on AIM simulataneously
Hurricane Piano: Kids In The Hall...
Hurricane Piano: Ken the multitasker
professorPloop: in the hall too, wow
cease: hi dave. a have a book ref for him
Dr. Headphones: chldren of democrats: kids in the HELL
Hurricane Piano: I'd leave that at Children of Politicians
Dr. Headphones: i told him, cat, maybe he will check in here also
Dr. Headphones: all good republicans go to heaven
llanwydd: kinder in der heil
Hurricane Piano: Watched a couple old Crossfire eps online featuring Zappa
Hurricane Piano: What a hoot!
professorPloop: I saw bush won by 3.47 percent, you'd think it was 97percent from the way they talk
cease: where did you find them, piano?
klokwkdog-XVI: call-ins on "Weaponry" Tue. were dominated by one long exchange about Gen. Smedley Butler and the abortive Republican coup of '34
Hurricane Piano: Viralvideo, if memory serves
Dr. Headphones: speaking of music, fresh air on npr had iggy pop on today, 1 hr interview. i was VERY surprised at how erudite and intelligent he is
cease: i know of that only from janeane, klok
Dr. Headphones: ah, klok, smedley's tirade is a classic
cease: i want to read his book
cease: im surprised it wasnt in howard zinn's book
llanwydd: Iggy Slob intelligent?
klokwkdog-XVI: NYT had some article that pulled up Dave Foley and said US networks never figured out how to showcase him; he's apparently reduced to hosting celeb. poker tourneys
llanwydd: what the hell is he doing on NPR?
Hurricane Piano: No shards of glass involved, Ken
Dr. Headphones: llan: listen to the archive. you will be surprised also, i'm positive
Dr. Headphones: jp: he mentioned the glass cutting episode
doctecazoid: hi gang - can't stay long - chemo lili got her hair shaved today 'cause so much of it was shedding - i had a great visit with bubba & co. in bloomington - i am getting some chow together for lili & me
klokwkdog-XVI: yeah, Ken, but the plotters figured any kind of military brass would goose step right down the street with them...
Hurricane Piano: What can you say, llan - the Stooges' fanbase has grown up
Merlyn: Dogs playing poker!
doctecazoid: i will post more pix soon
Dr. Headphones: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13
Dr. Headphones: hey doc, and hey to chemobaldie also :)
doctecazoid: hope all is well with y'all - i will try to get more chat time next week
cease: hi dod. did you get my email yest about new medicine?
professorPloop: hi doc, best wishes for all
klokwkdog-XVI: ...he strung them along so the FBI and Sekret Cervix could get ironclad evidence, then ratted them out on Senate floor
cease: hi lili
Hurricane Piano: Hugs to Lili
doctecazoid: thanx - and if anyone hasn't already, go to the lodestone catalog site and round out your cd collection of firesign classics!
Dr. Headphones: i've found a couple of those sekret cervixes (cervices?)
doctecazoid: cat: yes, got email - forwarding to lili
doctecazoid: thanx for all your good wishes
Dr. Headphones: thanks for all the fishes, too
Hurricane Piano: Ken...buried treasure?
cease: it's called herceptin. i wonder if dex knows of it. our provincial med service just began subsidizing it the other day
Dr. Headphones: i have now read 3 of 5 of the HGTTG books
klokwkdog-XVI forgot to send a good wish, but will shortly :-(
doctecazoid: have a great evening - catch y'all on the funway - next week
doctecazoid: ttfn ttyl - byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
cease: by doc
||||||||| Around 8:58 PM, doctecazoid walks off into the sunset...
Hurricane Piano: Nite, Doc
klokwkdog-XVI: nite DT
Dr. Headphones: jp: well, not buried, but hidden inside a cave. you've probably been there too ;)
Hurricane Piano: Yeah, did push-ups 'til I puked.
Dr. Headphones: i'm hoping to re-explore those domains again soon....
cease: you're rejoining the army, kend?
klokwkdog-XVI: yeah, Ken, you can pick up where that kid in England left off ;-)
Dr. Headphones: heavens to betsy, NO!
Hurricane Piano: LOL, Cat
llanwydd: you're hooked on pushups like me, hp?
Dr. Headphones: although i did see that the indiana national guard wants truck drivers. that's just across the border from me, a couple miles
klokwkdog-XVI: get some of those non-terrestrial officers after you...
professorPloop: go ahead, re-enlist
llanwydd: I do three sets of twenty a day. It's a compulsion
cease: push-ups, caves, what else could i think?
Dr. Headphones: klok, that was funny as hell, loved it
Merlyn: do pushups until pablo goes away
Hurricane Piano: No, I'm high on the real thing...
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!"
klokwkdog-XVI: that's the whole problem, isn't it, Ken...getting across the border...
Dr. Headphones: catherwood, you're late
||||||||| Catherwood strides over to Dr. Headphones and mumbles "Did you want me?"
Dr. Headphones: if i wanted catherwood, i'd cut down a cather tree
||||||||| Catherwood walks alongside Dr. Headphones and asks "Do you have something for me to do?"
cease: merl, did you hear dwarf quotred on maj report ad tonight?
cease: i'll email the pyramind company and certainly the lads should be informed.
Dr. Headphones: catherwood: go fly a kite
||||||||| Catherwood goes fly a kite.
klokwkdog-XVI: look kids -- it's official: we can chat now. Thank you, Catherwood, you slimy weasel
||||||||| Catherwood strides up to klokwkdog-XVI and queries "Do you have something for me to do?"
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, give an ax to Dr. Headphones
||||||||| Catherwood strides up to Hurricane Piano and mumbles "Something I can help with?"
llanwydd: isn't it good. Norwegian Catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood steps alongside llanwydd and says "Did you want something?"
cease: i noticed a guest called "peter bergen" on morning sedition. must one syllabl away!
professorPloop: ahh guffaw, humerous retort and witty quip
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, light a fire
||||||||| Catherwood steps alongside Hurricane Piano and asks "Do you have something for me to do?"
Dr. Headphones: catherwood is a one trick pony
||||||||| Catherwood walks alongside Dr. Headphones and asks "Would you like something?"
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, would you please light a fire?
||||||||| Catherwood rushes over to Hurricane Piano and mumbles "Someone mention my name?"
cease: i wonder if john rice was invovled with that?
klokwkdog-XVI: I think Peter Bergen is some kind of Iraq expert who swore on a stack of bibles in 2002 that we had to invade Iraq because of irrefutable evidence of WMDs...
Dr. Headphones: if john rice got drunk, would he be "fried rice"?
||||||||| 9:03 PM: boney jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past half hour!"
Dr. Headphones: hey boney
professorPloop: hello boney
Hurricane Piano: Boney
klokwkdog-XVI: and of course, now, he's still on the TV talking head circuit while Scott Ritter and Joe Wilson can't get a phone call returned
boney: Peter Bergen and Charlie McCarthy?
llanwydd: hi bone
Hurricane Piano: How's Estonia?
llanwydd: Charlie Mudhead
cease: my adbusters partner was from estonia
Dr. Headphones: "the bone in estonia is full of marrow." now get out your codebooks and decipher that one
Hurricane Piano: Did he fall asleep leaning against a windfall?
klokwkdog-XVI: I always get those 3 little countries mixed up
Dr. Headphones: i needs to check my laundry in basement, will return shortly
cease: speaking of charlie, great joke about rove. bush couold no more fire rove than charlie mccarthy could fire edgar bergen
Merlyn: I remember the Charlie McCarthy Senate hearings; turns out he was a Communist puppet
cease: in the estonian mountains, up against a windfall
professorPloop: it nicht correcto
klokwkdog-XVI: one has the hot women, one has the good hooch, and the other one, dunno...good roads to the other two?
Hurricane Piano: Ken is actually going to explore one of those caves he was talking about earlier...
||||||||| Dave enters at 9:06 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and runs off to the Haberdashery Barn.
Hurricane Piano: Dave!!
klokwkdog-XVI: estonia, pinta and santa maria or something like that
professorPloop: hello dave
cease: still searching for that elusive clitoris, kend?
boney: Peter Bergman is funnier than Peter Bergen.
cease: hey dave
klokwkdog-XVI: well, look, Dave finally broke down and interrupted his AIM chats to visit us!
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, please pour Dave a glass of sangria
||||||||| Catherwood rushes over to Hurricane Piano and asks "Did you want me?"
professorPloop: estonia, destonia, festonia, gestonia
Hurricane Piano: Damn, he's useless.
boney: also known as Commandante Baldy.
Dave: Dave is here! yes I gambled in Vegas, won a whole 4 bucks in nickles
Merlyn: I can add that, hirricane
klokwkdog-XVI: nah Catherwood, pour Dave a BIG glass of Ubik
||||||||| Catherwood rushes over to klokwkdog-XVI and mumbles "Do you have something for me to do?"
llanwydd: the baloneya in estonia stays mainly in the smithsonia
professorPloop: the bucks were wearing only nickles?
Dr. Headphones: hey dave, i'm back from the basement and you're here
Dave: oh the aim chats are still goin on
boney: essense of ublique
klokwkdog-XVI: you don't know where those nickels have been, Dave
Dr. Headphones: cat: i know where it is, just haven't gotten into the right environs lately
Hurricane Piano: Add at your leisure, Merl - it's more fun to gamble and see what C will do
Merlyn: Catherwood, pour Dave a BIG glass of Ubik
||||||||| Catherwood strides alongside Merlyn and says "Do you have something for me to do?"
Merlyn: hmm, didn't work yet
klokwkdog-XVI: looong discussion in TWIT 12 about how icky the seats at the nickel slots in cheap casinos are...
llanwydd: Ubik is a novel by Philip K. Dick , isn't it?
klokwkdog-XVI: yep, Ilan
llanwydd: I started to read it but haven't finished
cease: one of the best books ever written
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, bring me my goat
||||||||| Catherwood gets Hurricane Piano's goat.
klokwkdog-XVI: everybody wants some
Merlyn: yeah, c'wood only lets people ask for themselves, because the parser can't figure out a person's name, just "me", "I" etc
Dr. Headphones: i don't want *some*, i want it ALL
Hurricane Piano: Mmmm, that's good goat!
cease: feta for me please
klokwkdog-XVI: especially the dead people
Dave: well it was the thrill of doing something illegal that didn't involve getting STDs or doing drugs that was fun
Merlyn: thanks for nothing, catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood walks alongside Merlyn and asks "Something I can help with?"
Dr. Headphones: std's? never been there, thank grid
Hurricane Piano: Gotcha, Merl - will couch requests to C accordingly
cease: is iillegality supposed to be fun?
llanwydd: Earlier I started to read "Through a Scanner Darkly" but couldn't stand it
Dr. Headphones: catherwood: i want it all
||||||||| Catherwood steps up to Dr. Headphones and queries "Did you need me?"
klokwkdog-XVI: Dave -- you can practice speaking out against the government. That'll be next, soon enough.
Hurricane Piano: Only when it has two "i"s, Cat
cease: nor could i llan. i've read all of his books except his first, recently unearthed and perhaps should have stayed buried. i loathed scanner.
Merlyn: fix me a drink, catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood brings Merlyn a whiskey & soda.
klokwkdog-XVI: ah, Ilan, start with something simple, like "Androids" or "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale"
Merlyn: bring me something to eat, catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood gets Merlyn a box of Cracker-Bax.
professorPloop: bring me a big big bomber, catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood brings professorPloop a big big bomber.
cease: androis is so different from the flick
Merlyn: thank you, catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood answers "You're welcome."
cease: i would probalbly recomend the man in the high castle.
Merlyn: they just used the title, cat, just like the bond movies
klokwkdog-XVI: I personally like "A Maze of Death", esp. the Walker on Earth.
professorPloop: eat it catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood rushes up to professorPloop and asks "Someone mention my name?"
cease: the lads told me they werent influenced by it, but i choose notr to believe it. if you love firesign, you;ll love it
klokwkdog-XVI: they are both interesting, Cat, kind of like Catch-22 and its movie. But the book is definitely superior in both cases
Merlyn: going to do stuff, bye all
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, bring me some medicine
||||||||| Catherwood gives Hurricane Piano some medicine.
cease: dick saw it hsortly before his death and said he learned something new about androids from it. of course, mainly what he liked was the sudden torrent of money
Hurricane Piano: Nite, Merl
klokwkdog-XVI: actually, many of the books were expanded from short stories in pulp magazines
||||||||| Catherwood says "9:13 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs Merlyn by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
Dr. Headphones: later, brian
klokwkdog-XVI: bye Merlyn
professorPloop: thanks M, get those orcs, or humans
Hurricane Piano: Catherwood, bring me Mr. Limbaugh's medicine
||||||||| Catherwood gives Hurricane Piano mr limbaugh's medicine.
cease: catch 22 tried to follow the book but failed miserably. it was at least well acted
cease: blade runner and androids parted company far earlier in evolution.
boney: http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/a_scanner_darkly.html
llanwydd: don't tell me limbag is still on the air
Dr. Headphones: jp likes oxycontin? i'm gonna tell on you......
professorPloop: I read his book about the berlin airlift, I forget the name
cease: but it worked visually superbly and stands as a worthy addition to the dick ouevre
klokwkdog-XVI: the book would've needed a mini-series as long as The Forsythe Saga...well, maybe not, but as long as The Jewel in the Crown
Hurricane Piano: Probably more like taking in all the air, llan
cease: dick wrote a book about the berlin airlift? no he didnt
Hurricane Piano: No, no, I'm not into hillbilly heroin!
Dr. Headphones: someone mentioned berlin, i just bought the vonnegut book on WW2. slaugherhouse five, i think? haven't read it yet
professorPloop: oops leon maybe
cease: GREAT BOOK
klokwkdog-XVI: dick apparently approved of Androids, or what was left of him did
boney: slippage
cease: and flick is excellent.
klokwkdog-XVI: yes, the flick did well in that case, and added some, um, enhancements
Dr. Headphones: heard vonnegut reading part of it on radio other day, was utterly fascinated by what i heard
boney: actually, didn't Harlan Ellison wrote "Slippage" ?
llanwydd: I saw the movie "Slaughterhouse Five". Wasn't impressed
professorPloop: i saw part of I, Robot, special effects were cool of what I saw
Dave: haven't read it, will some day as I've said with the thousands of books people have recomended
cease: hi boney
boney: er, didn't Harlan Ellison write Slippage?
cease: ellsion wrote more than even he knows
Dr. Headphones: i have copy of i,robot on dvd someone gave me, haven't watched yet. read the book back in 60s in high school
Hurricane Piano: lots of psuedonyms
llanwydd: I like Ellison's short stories. Haven't read any of his novels
cease: he lives near my parents, if you wanna call that a living
klokwkdog-XVI: i saw about 10 min. of I, Robot on someone's TV this week and couldn't relate it atoll to what I remembered of the Asimov book
cease: he doesnt write novels, thankfully. good scream plays though
Hurricane Piano: Don't think Isaac was thinking of Will Smith...
boney: Did you know that Ray Bradbury writes a story from start to finish without proofreading? Mozart wrote music the same way.
Dr. Headphones: first sci-fi i ever read was "pebble in the sky" by asimov. a truly life-changing experience for me
cease: i'm on his wife's mailing list. endless offers to buy signed copies of his latest disgorgins
Dr. Headphones: wow boney, didn't know that. just re-read f451 a couple months ago. still a classic
professorPloop: brian and alldis
Dave: I write the same way, and the shit is there to prove it, I'm a poet not a short story writer
boney: Has Harlan written any novels?
cease: did you know bradbury's influnece on david ossman? its published somewhere
llanwydd: Haven't read much Asimov except for "Foundation". I liked that one
klokwkdog-XVI: HP -- the book I read had more of a cop buddy team like Alien Nation and Will Smith seemed to be a lone gun in the section I saw (attack by robots on his car in the tunnel)
Hurricane Piano: Wonder if Ossman has kept in touch with Bradbury over the years?
professorPloop: that is the only part I saw klok
llanwydd: I've read a ton of Bradbury
boney: The Truffaut movie, Dr. Headphones.
cease: they corresponded when ossie was a kid, if you can imagine that far back in time
cease: how time flyes is dedicated to him
klokwkdog-XVI: Ilan -- I liked Asimov as a kid, but not as an adult. Thought his Life and Energy book was excellent (he was an NYC biochem prof).
Dr. Headphones: if you read asimov, bradbury, and clarke, you have the ABCs of sci
Hurricane Piano: Getting easier all the time, Cat
Dr. Headphones: boney: haven't seen the movie, but then, they hardly ever live up to the book. i'm a reading freak. mom taught me to read before i started school, have never been without a book since then
boney: dick, ellison, g?
llanwydd: I've read some Clarke. Loved "Childhood's End"/
Hurricane Piano: Oh, Truffaut's F451 is reasonably good, especially for its' time
professorPloop: lem is fun
klokwkdog-XVI: yeah, that's true Ken (although there's Cambell, Doc Smith, Pohl, Kornbluth, Van Vogt, others who came before and many who have come since and moved the ball 'way farther down the field)
boney: oops, forgot f.
cease: i got into sf in jr hi. the same stuff as you're referencing
Dr. Headphones: ah, childhood's end was great. symbolism oozes from it for the religious reader. i read it while a good little baptist boy and was shocked at ending
professorPloop: the voice of jimmy-lee
cease: lem is fine but leguin is sublime
Dr. Headphones: cat: another classic hardly anyone knows is "way station" by clifford simak. a wonderful book
cease: yes, the devils from our fututre, kend. i lvoed that
llanwydd: Actually, Asimov, Bradbury and Clarke are probably the only essentials in scifi
cease: i lvoe simak. i've read tons of his books
klokwkdog-XVI: oh, I loved Way Station, Ken
boney: Dick, Ellison...
boney: The alphabet is hard.
Dr. Headphones: the only man to have a 143 year uninterrupted subscription to "nature"
Hurricane Piano: Geez, I haven't read much fiction of late...maybe I should visit the library
professorPloop: go jump in the poul
cease: silverburg is great too. his valentine's castle is very leguinian
boney: frint
boney: franz, ffart
Dr. Headphones: jp: handmaid's tale by that canadian lady whose name i forget
professorPloop: frist is fantasy
klokwkdog-XVI: you have to register with the FBI now, HP :-(
Hurricane Piano: I'm vaguely familiar with the film
klokwkdog-XVI: Margaret Atwood, Ken
cease: my local boy spider robinson in loads of fun to read. his neighbour william gibson is more famous but much much much less fun to read
klokwkdog-XVI: she also wrote Oryx and Crake recently
cease: margaret atwood, kend. the most famous woman in can lit
Dr. Headphones: yep, klok, that's her. great book, highly recommended.
Dr. Headphones: and now for a change of pace, i have to leave temporarily to do a duty in another room
klokwkdog-XVI: gibson is OK, but I think Neal Stephenson is really better
Hurricane Piano: Oh, wow - bless Rehnquist - issued a statement saying he intends to stay put until he can't.
klokwkdog-XVI: good luck, Ken!
cease: i agree klok
klokwkdog-XVI: the Republicans will poison him, HP
Hurricane Piano: Got 2-ply, Ken?
professorPloop: vonda mcintryre and linda nagata
cease: though i've only read one of neal's
cease: vonda is a friend of proctor's, i think
klokwkdog-XVI: I can't wait to dig thru Stephenson's latest trilogy
professorPloop: sewer gas and electric by matt ruff was wild
Hurricane Piano: I wouldn't put it past them, Klok
professorPloop: a new stephenson? cool
klokwkdog-XVI: Cryptonomicon is excellent, Cat, except it's 700p long (but you won't want it to finish). There's a long 1st chapter available online for inspection somewhere.
professorPloop: that is almost like gravity's rainbow, almost....
llanwydd: The first sci fi I can remember reading was "The Illustrated Man" by Ray Bradbury. I think I was in fifth grade. I was hooked after that. I saw the movie many years later and it sucked
cease: i got bogged down with mason and dixon. my tolerance for 18th century englihs is not infinite
professorPloop: the captain crunch episode grabbed me
cease: i liked the flick too, llan
cease: but bradbury is perhaps the perfect writer to start reading sf with
llanwydd: Rod Steiger is the worst actor of all time
cease: there are many of those, llan
professorPloop: the guy from twilight zone?
Hurricane Piano: Aww, he wasn't bad in "Mars Attacks."
llanwydd: no that was Rod Serling. He was a writer
klokwkdog-XVI: I skipped that Pynchon, Cat. Possession was OK and the victorian lingo went down better.
professorPloop: ahh serling, that sterling
Hurricane Piano: Submitted for your approval...
Hurricane Piano: Uh-oh, gotta go. See y'all on the flip-flop!
||||||||| 9:33 PM -- Hurricane Piano left for parts unknown. (Entry from Nick Danger's "Idiots I Have Been Paid To Follow").
professorPloop: what actor are you most like llan? I should picture a young who
professorPloop: night piano
klokwkdog-XVI: he was sorta OK in Dr. Zhivago, Ilan. Anyway, he's dead and we don't talk Illinois about them, eh?
cease: by piano man
klokwkdog-XVI: nite HP
professorPloop: denero? burton?
Dr. Headphones: ah, i feel better now :)
llanwydd: I agree klok. But Dr. Z was a great film overall
professorPloop: cat scratch fever?
cease: very cinematic
llanwydd: Well, ploop I can't figure it objectively but I'm basically Shakespearean
professorPloop: marty feldman? who do you resemble llan?
Dr. Headphones: did you hear about the constipated mathematician? he worked it out with a pencil.... (rimshot, please)
cease: it used to be slide rule, kend
Dr. Headphones: cat: that would hurt more than a pencil, i fear
professorPloop: get on it and do it every day
Dr. Headphones: heaven forbid that the contipated programmer works it out with an apple
llanwydd: believe it or not I somewhat resemble lon chaney without makeup
cease: from a high school calculus class, kend. and i was in high school a long time ago
professorPloop: some mouses are wireless now
Dr. Headphones: mouse? i thought it was gerbils ;)
klokwkdog-XVI: morse science, Cat?
professorPloop: I used a slide rule in college, not all the students had pocket calculators yet
Dr. Headphones: i had my limit of calculus in college. damn, that's an esoteric joke isn't it?
cease: did you read my dwarf piece on my blog today, klok?
klokwkdog-XVI is obviously trying to invoke Roto, K3KY... ;-)
klokwkdog-XVI: no, Cat
Dr. Headphones: haven't heard from roto lately
cease: saw a wondrous flick called A Day Without a Mexican a couple days ago
boney: the problem isn't in the pile or my piles
klokwkdog-XVI was busy calculating trajectory of #1 bus route north and south in Klamath Falls, OR, if you must know, Cat
cease: it was what the firesign could have been, or could still be. real sf, beautfilly exectued, and very firesonian
cease: my piece is called What are all these Mexicans doing here?
professorPloop: without a mexican what?
cease: check it out at www.seemrealland.blogspot.com
professorPloop: axtlan atxlan
boney: I've just had a brainstorm! How to make the whole global warming thing work for us. Nuclear-powered SUVs.
llanwydd: pass the mexican please
Dr. Headphones: cat: 1st review on amazon.com isn't too kind, but will read rest later
klokwkdog-XVI: Cat -- I'm mildly interested in seeing Jim White's film, Searching For the Wrong-Eyed Jesus ,as reviewed in NYT this week...but not inspired enough to seek it out at an art house and can't imagine its presence in a mainstream God-fearing theatre
boney: born in east l.a.
Dr. Headphones: boney: tell the truth, now. were you on cheney's energy panel? LOL!
professorPloop: boney told rove...
cease: of mexican? fuck the reviewed. a magnificent flick
boney: Ken Lay, Tom DeLay
llanwydd: rove ursus wade?
boney: Ralph DeLorean
klokwkdog-XVI: cat -- it's spozed to be like a Deliverance-flavored O Brother Where Art Thou?
professorPloop: honey , go see if the yellowcake is ready. yes dear....
cease: no buggery or odyssy rip offs anywhere in site, kok
Dr. Headphones: ah, the soggy bottom boys with a banjo and bow/arrow
klokwkdog-XVI: Poop -- it's all flaky now
professorPloop: ralph spoiledsports delorean
klokwkdog-XVI: somebody trod too hard on the floor while it was baking
klokwkdog-XVI: and I'll never have that recipe again -- S. Hussein
cease: flaky poop? call the proctologist
cease: oh phil
Dr. Headphones: too much fiber in diet
professorPloop: someone left a cake out in the rain
professorPloop: squeal like a pig
llanwydd: oh no
boney: soiled shorts
cease: mr wilson, it's your neighbour carl the menace
klokwkdog-XVI is gonna go make some more tacos...
professorPloop: I think my kids are doing it on purpose
cease: gonna grow some corn, klok?
Dr. Headphones: nukular tacos. hmmm, there's a marketing ploy that hasn't been used yet
professorPloop: SUV tacos, wow
cease: per sellers? bye bye
professorPloop: tupelo honey on the headphones, got a napkin?
Dr. Headphones: sanitary napkin, can't be too safe these days
professorPloop: personally inspected by chirtoff I hope
boney: This talk has got me thinking about grabbing a burrito.
Dr. Headphones: don't grab too hard, they squirt out the end if you squeeze them
boney: with extra cheese
professorPloop: no, put down that pickle
Dr. Headphones: no pickles in my tacos, please!
professorPloop: the people of the philapines are tamales right?
Dave: one of my fave songs, but anything the man does is good
boney: Democracy (as we know it) may (or may not) have ceased to exist. Only the CIA knows, and it's a secret.
klokwkdog-XVI: lettuce, no-fat black refried beans, super-extra sharp cheddar, beef, green peppers, jalapeno, salsa...mmmm. Quick oven, heat them shells. Lift that bale...
professorPloop: it is beautiful
klokwkdog-XVI: no Poop, they are day laborers in Saudi Arabia and the other Emirates
professorPloop: that is on a need to know basis only
Dr. Headphones: leave out the jalapenos, sounds good
Dave: amusingly enough, when I go back and read the logs of chats and I realize that what I've said makes little or no sense in the context of the whole thing, it made sense at the time but that was then and this is now which is now then now
llanwydd: ever had indian pickels? Great stuff. very spicy. made with limes, mangoes, cardamom pods, et
cease: you mean democracy in your country, boney
Dr. Headphones: dave, it if made sense, we'd have to ban you forever
professorPloop: that sounds good llan
cease: beleive it or not, there are others
cease: the nature of the chat, dave
professorPloop: not for long cease
cease: if yo dont post immediately, you['re out of synch, but like the firesign, thats somehting to exploit, not regret
boney: reveal that pickle's identity, go to jail. It's the law. (what law?)
llanwydd: there is no true democracy. All governments are oligarchies
klokwkdog-XVI: I didn't think the Indians made pickles, Ilan. Whose are they, Iroquois?
Dave: well I'm always one to be one with nature so...here goes industry
cease: you know al coutnries, llan?
professorPloop: most of the chat is in the mind, the words just keep the concepts propped up in the mind
Dr. Headphones: rocky rococco pickles and ice cream, premixed for the pregnant
llanwydd: that one's over my head, cat
professorPloop: available in both kosher and dill
klokwkdog-XVI: Dave -- the chats make no sense later because it takes so much context that isn't said: the London bombings, Bastille Day, current movies, old music, etc.
||||||||| Outside, the 9:53 PM bus from Billville pulls away, leaving Bunnyboy coughing in a cloud of diesel fumes.
Bunnyboy: lo dere
professorPloop: that is what I said klok
Dr. Headphones: hi bun
klokwkdog-XVI: and all kinda old stuff that resonates to a current event or theme. It's impossible to reconstitute the environment again
Bunnyboy: www.hellodere.com
cease: the bunny cometh
Dr. Headphones: we will never have that recipe again.............
professorPloop: uh oh bunnyboy, hide the drugs and dog
klokwkdog-XVI: then you are a plagarist, Poop! Grrrr!
Bunnyboy: RE: Link...Wow, I almost forgot about Marty Allen.
Dave: well said klok, hurray!
Dr. Headphones: marty allen?
Bunnyboy: You're dopin' Fluffy!
llanwydd: hell odor?
cease: its all online now, kend
klokwkdog-XVI: I thought it first and have a psychic copyright under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Only Cat is immune, and maybe not 4 long...
professorPloop: plagarist?? I have the plague?
klokwkdog-XVI: that, too, Poop, from the sound of it...
llanwydd: I had forgotten Marty Allen. He was famous for his hairstyle wasn't he?
klokwkdog-XVI: back to tend the shells...
professorPloop: cough cough
boney: gangsta rappers DMCA
cease: 4 inches? that's not long. that's Ridickulous
professorPloop: he shared a barber with larry fine
Dr. Headphones: i didn't know that was real site until i tried it
Bunnyboy: Dr. H: I'd read some internet rumor about Steve Rossi being murdered in the Nevada desert. All blather, I assume, since I had no luck finding a death notice.
Bunnyboy: And that led me to www.hellodere.com, Marty Allen's site.
cease: the berber of seville. finest kif in town for 14 hundred years
Bunnyboy: llan: Yes, BEEG hair, uh-huh.
Dr. Headphones: i have some berber carpet. good stuff
professorPloop: hellodere ahhh thanks for the memories
boney: Phil Spector
boney: bad hair daze
Dr. Headphones: the man from u.n.c.l.e. and the woman from s.p.e.c.t.r.e.
professorPloop: phil inspector clouseau
Bunnyboy: I gotta suspect that the Martinator has gone the way of Dolly and Phyllis, and wears a wig now. I can't imagine an octogenarian with jet-black, medusa hair.
cease: does the firesign member who plays the ghost become the Phil Spector?
professorPloop: i spect so cat
Bunnyboy: 'EEEEEEEEED-MUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNND!"
boney: mark mark mark mark
llanwydd: I imagine Gloria Vanderbilt still dyes her hair jet black
Dave: Cat gets a rim shot for bad phil pun
llanwydd: If she's still living
Dr. Headphones: why am i yawning? it's not even 11pm yet.
Dr. Headphones: catherwood, what time is it?
||||||||| Catherwood says "It's 9:59 PM, exactly!"
Dr. Headphones: wrong! you're 7 minutes fast and an hour slow
boney: this is the brain damage scene where everything starts merging into everything else
professorPloop: you yearn for the open road ken
Dr. Headphones: open roads are better than closed ones
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 10 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
llanwydd: I think we ought to all pitch in and buy a watch for Catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood says "It's exactly 10:01 PM!"
Dr. Headphones: drain bamage, bone
professorPloop: guava tacos for the supreme court?
llanwydd: and wind it first
Dr. Headphones: supreme tacos for the guava court
professorPloop: closed roads are where they do those cool car commercials
boney: you awaken and realize you're being skullfucked by G. W. Bush (this joke for mature audiences only)
Dave: still wish Catherwood would go back to EST
||||||||| Catherwood walks up to Dave and asks "Do you have something for me to do?"
professorPloop: while cheney rams it home from behind
Dr. Headphones: catherwood is on EST, in indiana. rest of east is on EDT
||||||||| Catherwood iss on est in indiana rest of east is on edt.
boney: behind the President all the way!
llanwydd: no he's on LSD
boney: the joke's on him
Dr. Headphones: behind the president? i'll watch my step then, because i don't want to soil my shoes with republican shit
boney: adios
cease: better than LDS
professorPloop: I liked jimmy carter taking phone calls on SNL
||||||||| boney rushes off, saying "10:04 PM? Mark Time is almost on! Where's a radio?"
Dr. Headphones: hey, don't dis the morons, er, mormons
professorPloop: utah from ware?
Bunnyboy: utah firm underwear.
llanwydd: I've known some mormons I really liked.
Dr. Headphones: i drove through the NE corner of utah, pretty scenery
professorPloop: now now, discussing the religious underwear of others is beneath them, I mean us
cease: it takes more than a bad grasp on reality to make a bad person, thankfully
Dr. Headphones: promo on radio, blues band in area play concert. their name: deep fried pickle project
cease: y'all see the southpark show on mormonism?
llanwydd: Utah is a wilderness of salt from what I hear
cease: it conlcudes with the same thing, after ruthlessly mocking how anyone could believe that dumb shit
professorPloop: they have have good potatos oops that is idaho
klokwkdog-XVI: nah, admin's being run by the Moonies, not the Mormons
cease: we used to call him spud raleigh
llanwydd: Utah could salt Idaho's potatoes
Dr. Headphones: http://www.wvpe.org/events.html?event=75
professorPloop: come on now, that bible was found in upper new york state and left by angels, you don't believe that?
cease: did you see teh southpark, poop?
Bunnyboy: I looked up the definition of oligarchy today, and thought "Hmmmmmm!"
Dr. Headphones: it makes as much sense as the rest of organized religion
professorPloop: I don't watch much tv
Bunnyboy: Power in the hands of a few....hmm...
cease: i hpoe they broadcast that endlessly in japan. we were plagued with morons over there
llanwydd: Hmmmmm?
klokwkdog-XVI: poop -- that's preposterous, unlike the unshakable verity of the mainstream Christian bible, every bit of which is absolutely true
professorPloop: sure it does ken, come on, let the morons be experts about something...
Dr. Headphones: klok: even the hundreds of outright contradictions are true
professorPloop: of course they are, it is gods words, not translation after translation after story telling after story telling
klokwkdog-XVI: ken - god has just not revealed their truth to you
professorPloop: pray with us ken, get on your knees
cease: humans are as drawn to religions as lemmings are to cliffs, alas
Bunnyboy: It's a simple head code. Any schoolboy could catch it.
professorPloop: touch the screen and feel the spirit, and send me money
llanwydd: you can't say anything bad about the mormons though, can you?
Dr. Headphones: reading political/esoteric novel now by kathryn neville, "the magic circle", which runs from jesus to caligula to genghis khan to hitler and stalin
llanwydd: they never offend anyone
klokwkdog-XVI: that's an astonishing range, Ken!
Bunnyboy: Runs is right!
cease: sounds interesting, or at least challenging, kend
llanwydd: never have offended me anyway
Bunnyboy: Blessed are the...KILL KILL KILL KILL!
professorPloop: insidious, they are evangelical, I prefer hindus less pushy folks
Dr. Headphones: and kenmore makes an even more astonishing range, klok!
cease: just read a fine novel about a musician who abandons vast careerr to work with crazy people, creating dialogues out of jams with their screams. i jsut told dave about this
llanwydd: ah that mormon jigsaw reference interests me. Anybody know what that is?
cease: my local colledge has a renowned music therapy programme and this reminded me of that
Bunnyboy: Anybody hear about the upcoming flickadoo, THE ARISTOCRATS?
cease: you think it is a ref, llan?
Dr. Headphones: llan: never heard of anything of that sort. tell us about it
professorPloop: topcat is making a revival? cool
llanwydd: whatever, cat. What is a mormon jigsaw?
cease: of with their headstones!
klokwkdog-XVI: bun -- is that the comedians all telling the same joke?
professorPloop: geegaw
llanwydd: speaking of hindus, ploop, I don't find them as friendly as mormons
cease: i dont know, llan. my point being, a collection of words not referring to anyting in the then world. out of that nothing could come somethingl or perhaps not
Dr. Headphones: saw a sikh tonight, he drove like a maniac
klokwkdog-XVI: no more substantial than a German mixup code, I suspect, Ilan -- just the guys' carefully crafted wordplay
Bunnyboy: klok: That it is. Purportedly, the QUEEN MOTHER Dirty Joke of all time, dating back to vaudeville.
professorPloop: did I hindu, I meant kuduz
llanwydd: a mormon jigsaw is mentioned in "Giant Rat"
cease: did he put he limey in the coconut, kend?
klokwkdog-XVI: as is German mixup code in the next breath, Ilan
Bunnyboy: Thankfully, the movie is getting a bit of a PR boost, as AMC Theatres are refusing to screeen it.
cease: it could indeed be a kind of tool invented by mormons
professorPloop: made out of underwear linen?
cease: this is getting Way into angels of america land
Dr. Headphones: my dear friends, the yawns have struck me head on. i must retire for the evening. be good. if you can't be good, invite me over ;)
cease: y'all seen that?
llanwydd: FST is full of injokes anyway. Hard to tell when anything means something
Bunnyboy: nite Ken!
professorPloop: night ken good luck
Dr. Headphones: later, fireheads
cease: gnite kend. dream no more of the road
klokwkdog-XVI: Ilan -- Google it. You get a few hits on LDS sites and BYU and then it's FST
klokwkdog-XVI: nite Ken
cease: truie enough , llan
Bunnyboy: "I! I! I! "
Bunnyboy: Yes, cease, I've seen the HBO production of ANGELS. Superlatives don't do it justice.
llanwydd: But as Phil Austin told us one night here, there was a real Catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood strides over to llanwydd and mumbles "Do you have something for me to do?"
professorPloop: i will toddle too, toodles
||||||||| professorPloop leaves to catch the 10:19 PM train to Virginia.
llanwydd: I hoped he'd recognize his name
llanwydd: night, ploop
Bunnyboy: nite Prof!
Dave: there was a real catherwood?
||||||||| Catherwood rushes over to Dave and mumbles "Something I can help with?"
klokwkdog-XVI: well, I guess time for me to flake out 2 folks. Have a good one, all (that goes for you, 2, Catherwood)
||||||||| Catherwood says "It's 10:20 PM"
Bunnyboy: Catherwood, wazz reaaaaaal?
||||||||| Catherwood steps over to Bunnyboy and queries "Would you like something?"
llanwydd: the original Catherwood was an artist. That's what Phil said
||||||||| Catherwood walks over to llanwydd and queries "Do you have something for me to do?"
Bunnyboy: nite Klok!
klokwkdog-XVI: this Catherwood is an incompetent
||||||||| Catherwood rushes up to klokwkdog-XVI and mumbles "Did you need me?"
klokwkdog-XVI: nightie everyone...
klokwkdog-XVI: forward into the pasta la vista!
llanwydd: Tea, madam?
Dave: really, cool, I thought they'd just amade it up
klokwkdog-XVI: or dolce pasta vita...
||||||||| At 10:22 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, klokwkdog-XVI!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
llanwydd: sweet past life? Or sugary macaroni?
Dave: ironic, I get a good chance to really focus on the chat and people leave, hmm...as it something I said?
Bunnyboy: The dough is the life.
Dave: mmmm ough
llanwydd: perhaps you said something in a language only we understand, Dave
Dave: I can't type tonight
Dave: yes ll and then everyone said "fuck you" and blasted off over yonder
Bunnyboy: Dave: No, they must have left, and THEN said "Fuck you!"
llanwydd: so, how many of us do we still have? just me?
Dave: yes that's it bun, great thinking lol
cease: are you just?
Bunnyboy: And me, Dorothy?
llanwydd: shut the dorothy
||||||||| "10:26 PM? 10:26 PM!!" says Catherwood, "Greg should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as Greg enters and sits at the bar.
Bunnyboy: Toto Slushhead!
Dave: the thin is growing crowd, let's all stand on different sides of the room
llanwydd: hi greg
Dave: when did we get a bar? sure don't tell the blind guy about it so he'll never take a drink
Bunnyboy: lo Greg
llanwydd: good to have someone besides me and my alter egos to talk to after all these years
Bunnyboy: What's the haps?
Bunnyboy: New FST fan?
llanwydd: what haps above?
Bunnyboy: Old frent, ehrm fart?
||||||||| At 10:28 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, Greg!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
Dave: I agree llan see my egos even got tired of me and went off to join whoever else they found to join
Bunnyboy: Greg, we hardly knew ye...
Bunnyboy: "He's dead. Who cares?"
||||||||| 10:29 PM: Greg-how do I send a message? jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past half hour!"
Dave: uhoh we done feared him away
llanwydd: that's a good way to send a message, greg
llanwydd: just keep changing your name
Dave: Greg just put the message in the text box and press enter or the send button, so you do think us worthy of your presence, ah good
||||||||| It's 10:30 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Dr. Headphones - dead from intense demonic possession
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Bunnyboy: Greg: See the bar in the lower left hand corner?
Dave: and make sure you don't have the refresh rate too quick or you won't be able to type, mine's on manual for the screen reader but a good 15 sec refresh should do you fine if you're sighted
llanwydd: If you do, order a drink
Bunnyboy: Type yer message in the box, press ENTER on yer keyboard
Greg-how do I send a message?: OH
Dave: he entered at the bar, he should be able to see it
Greg-how do I send a message?: hahahhahahahaha
Greg-how do I send a message?: sorry
Bunnyboy: Before you know it, it'll be Friday! ; )
cease: send a message to yourself
Bunnyboy: HEY! He did it!
Bunnyboy gets all misty-eyed
Dave claps, and drops his now acquired drink that he forgot he was holding, damnit now the cane's all...ugh
llanwydd: I'll bet you're the first Greg we've had at our chat
Bunnyboy: Now we can all say we saw Greg typed his first FST chat lines.
Greg-how do I send a message?: Yes
llanwydd: we've had a couple of Phils and a whole lot of Daves and some Catherwoods
||||||||| Catherwood steps over to llanwydd and asks "Did you want me?"
Dave: PRAISE THE GREAT FIREGOD IN THE WELL!
Greg-how do I send a message?: I am sorry the name runs too long
Dave: and dig Greg, you can change your name to "greg: I sent the message! hurray!"
llanwydd: just wanted to see what he'd say
Bunnyboy: Greg: Are you really in NY?
Dave: oh there are some really long names in here, trust me I've gotta read 'em all
Greg-how do I send a message?: Yes
llanwydd: That's all right. Its original
Greg-how do I send a message?: I am in New York right now
Dave: yes Greg, tell us your life story please, I'll listen
Bunnyboy: Greg: You know that this falderol generally starts at 9 pm your time?
llanwydd: I'm in the state about 300 miles north of the city
Dave: I'm in hicksville CO where they think Republican voting is ok for some reason
Bunnyboy: West Seattle, is me.
Greg-how do I send a message?: Seattle? Thta is where Ossman lives
Greg-how do I send a message?: *That
Bunnyboy: Greg: Actually, Ossman lives on Whidbey Island, just a bit north of Seattle.
Greg-how do I send a message?: I was close
Greg-how do I send a message?: laughs
llanwydd: I'm expired for the night. I could go for about 7 or 8 hours of death right now. Don't worry. I'll be born again in the morning.
llanwydd: night folks
Bunnyboy: nite llan!
Greg-how do I send a message?: I just discovered this room
Dave: live againe ye great actor!
Greg-how do I send a message?: how often do you people congregate here?
Bunnyboy: Were you wandering through FST.com, and found it, or what?
cease: weakly, strongly, whatever
Dave: ah I rememberred when I discovered this room, a light shined to show me the way, and I knew...ehem sorry that was a different room and there was a girl involved
Dave: every thursday at 9 EST
Bunnyboy: Greg: the room is always open. But Thursdays at 9 PM ET are the big gatherings.
Greg-how do I send a message?: Obviously, I like the diresign Theatre which is why I entered
Bunnyboy: Dave: You saw Tinkerbell, too?
Greg-how do I send a message?: and it is the first time I entered this room
Greg-how do I send a message?: *Firesign
Dave: oh no better than tinkerbell my friend, but we won't go in to detail
Greg-how do I send a message?: and Bunnyboy-- yes, I entered because I found it on their website
Bunnyboy: Greg: Longtime fan? Recent recruit?
Dave: forced in to submition?
Greg-how do I send a message?: I became a fan back in August, 1969
Dave: lol I'm being mean tonight sorry
Greg-how do I send a message?: a radio station in New York, WBAI played
Greg-how do I send a message?: Can You Be in Two Places at Once
Dave: yep he's an early bloomer methinks
Greg-how do I send a message?: e first time on radio
Bunnyboy: Greg: You got me beat by 7 years or so.
Greg-how do I send a message?: my cousin recorded it
Dave: WBAI played a lot of Shep's stuff which has now been preserved, yay!
Greg-how do I send a message?: and we heard it in the car on 8-track over and over
Greg-how do I send a message?: We still have that audio tape
Dave: you've got me beat by...34 years maybe
Bunnyboy: You flipped the 8-track over and over?
Greg-how do I send a message?: My cousin did
Greg-how do I send a message?: We were shocked at how long the piece ran
Greg-how do I send a message?: We thought it would be 10 minutes, or so
Dave: depends which side you've got
cease: 54rxyou went to his site, dave?
Dave: this is side 6
Greg-how do I send a message?: That is when I first discovered them
cease: i loved that show aboutr the ny worlds fair
Dave: yes cat and I bought a 12 mp3 cd collection of his stuff as that guy who owns the site never got back with me
Greg-how do I send a message?: I interviewed the four of them, years later, for a magazine called "OUTRE"
Bunnyboy: Yeah, the original NICK DANGER piece is almost indistingushable (time-wise) with the length of golden age radio broadcast recordings. Damn near a half hour, in and of itself!
Dave: his stories are just so...they just draw you in because of how he tells them, I'm gonna give my dad some I think, just to see what he thinks, but he's a straight sort of guy so..who knows
Greg-how do I send a message?: true
Greg-how do I send a message?: And what impressed me the most was that there was no audience
Greg-how do I send a message?: no laugh track, either
Dave: I love OTR, mmmm much better than tv
Dave: on a lot of those detective shows there wasn't an audience though
Dave: I may be young but I've heard my share, am seriously considering getting the complete Suspense series one of these years
Bunnyboy: If a tree falls on the radio, and no one is there to hear it, does the sound-effects guy still get paid?
Greg-how do I send a message?: hahaha
Dave: of course bun, everyone knows that
Dave: I still love Mel Blanke or however you spell his last name as Jack Benny's maxwell, how one man can make those noises is beyond me but he was a genious
cease: upir dad turned you on to firesign and he's a straight sort of guy?
Bunnyboy: Dave: I, too, am a fan of Golden Age Radio. It's a good 20-30 years before "my time", but I still love it.
Greg-how do I send a message?: Mel Blanc
||||||||| It's 10:50 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| llanwydd - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
cease: i knew mel blanc, vaguely
cease: he was a freind of my parents
Bunnyboy: Dave: That's BLANC, as in FRANC.
Greg-how do I send a message?: I interviewed Mel Blanc for "Video Times" and "Filmfax Magazine"
Greg-how do I send a message?: He was a Gemini
Dave: no my dad thought a Cheech and Chong skit was an FST thing, and so I looked that up and found out he was wrong but looked in to the FST anyway just for curiousity's sake, the rest is muddled history
Dave: thanks Greg
Greg-how do I send a message?: Cease? How did your parents know him?
cease: they went to the same church in van nuys, where we lived
Bunnyboy: Greg: Blanc was a Gemini? So am I. It all makes sense, somehow...
Greg-how do I send a message?: Church? Do you mean Synagogue?
Bunnyboy: "SHOOT THE DUCK! SHOOT THE DUCK!"
Greg-how do I send a message?: I am a Gemini, too
Bunnyboy: I saw Blanc lecture at Eastern Washington University in Cheney WA, in the late 70's.
cease: was he jewish? i have no idea what he was doing in my parents church then. perhaps along with multiple voices, he has multiple selves
Dave: that must've been interesting bun
Dave: tell stories pleeeeeeeease?
Greg-how do I send a message?: Mel Blanc was Jewish-- as a matter of fact
Greg-how do I send a message?: he got the job doing Porky Pig's voice in 1937
Bunnyboy: Dave: He told a lot of the stories that would end up in his memoir a few years later.
Greg-how do I send a message?: said to Jack Warner, "I am Jewish, you want me to be the voice of a pig?"
cease: i saw in him the pews singing hymns with my parents. later they had coffee along with other parishoners. it was not a single occasion.
Dave: need to find that book bun, hmmm
Greg-how do I send a message?: cease, that is very interesting
Dave: that is cat
Bunnyboy: THAT'S NOT ALL , FOLKS! Fun read. That, and HARPO SPEAKS, are enjoyable celebrity reads.
cease: the harry shearer of his day
Greg-how do I send a message?: and not a well known story
Dave: did a lot on Spike Jones' records too, listen to "love in bloom"
Dave: this dj on this internet radio station is playing all this old blues, good good shtuff
Greg-how do I send a message?: And "Clink, Clink, Another Drink"
Bunnyboy: Aaaaaaand on the other side, we have Charlton Heston (interminable), and....Charlie Chaplin (it's MY WORLD, and it's all about ME! ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz...)
cease: and it wasnt a guy who looked like mel blanc. i saw himn on the jack benny show a few days ago
cease: benny's talent show, if you know the episode. blanc does a wicked british horse
Dave: yes I'd forgotten he did the hiccoughs on that one Greg
Dave: that was fucking hilarious, they put that in there without him knowing
cease: speaking of charlie chaplin, dsid you see cat's meow, bun?
cease: eddie izzard as chplin? i cant find it in my vid stores
Dave: I haven't actually seen the episode, but he was on the tonight show with JB in '74 and he did it there
Bunnyboy: I've heard of CAT'S MEOW. Sundance or IFC, maybe?
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 11 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Dave: those silent movies, all you hear is that ddamned piano
cease: doc saw it and was talking aobut it last week
cease: do you use bit torent, bun?
cease: i just heard about it
Bunnyboy: bit torent? Is that like Netflix? Or what?
Greg-how do I send a message?: Catherwood is mistaken-- the time in new York is now 11:54 PM
||||||||| Catherwood says "It's 11:02 PM"
Dave: it's a way of downloading things from what I've read, I don't understand it but wish I did
cease: artricle in canuck mag i just read. the author sez he doest watch tv anymore, just bittorent of us and brit shows we dont get here
Bunnyboy: Just did a quick bit of research. THE CAT'S MEOW appears to be available only as an import VHS in Canada...
cease: there is a ton of that
cease: thanks, bun
Bunnyboy: MEOW is readily available on DVD in the States.
cease: maybe i can watch it on bit torrent
Dave: well if you figure that out Cat please let me know because I don't get it
cease: bunny, did you see a day without a mexican?
Bunnyboy: Well, I gotta go tuck in the dogs. Night, guys.
cease: by bun
cease: i'll do what i can, dave
Dave: thanks Cat and bye bun
Greg-how do I send a message?: I gotta go, too, but I'm happy I discovered this room
cease: off we go
Greg-how do I send a message?: you people are quite interesting
||||||||| Around 11:06 PM, cease walks off into the sunset...
Bunnyboy: cease: No, but I saw your NG post about same. Looks like it started as a short film, then was reworked as a feature.
Bunnyboy: Greg: Come back soon. See ya!
Greg-how do I send a message?: Goodnight-- and I shall return
Bunnyboy: Nite Dave!
Dave: farewell all, until next week it seems
||||||||| At 11:08 PM, Bunnyboy runs out the door saying "Hey, mister ice-cream man, I've got a nickel, wait for meeeee..."
Dave: "jah work is never done"
||||||||| Around 11:08 PM, Dave walks off into the sunset...
||||||||| Greg-how do I send a message? rushes off, saying "11:10 PM? Mark Time is almost on! Where's a radio?"
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:32 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."

The Evening's Participants:
boney
Bunnyboy
cease
Dave
doctecazoid
Dr. Headphones
Elayne
Greg-how do I send a message?
Hélène
Hurricane Piano
klokwkdog-XVI
Leo
llanwydd
Merlyn
professorPloop
quique
TX Tweeny

URL References:
http://webpages.charter.net/kendeb52/cats.html
http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/a_scanner_darkly.html
http://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/podcasting/firepod.jpg
www.hellodere.com
http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/001992.php
http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13
http://www.perrspectives.com/resources/documents.htm
www.seemrealland.blogspot.com
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004870.php
http://www.wvpe.org/events.html?event=75