A Firesign Chat
10/14/2004




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||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:33 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for October 14, 2004 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood escorts Napoleon Brand D in through the front door at 12:49 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
||||||||| Merlyn waltzes in at 12:50 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
Napoleon Brand D: Does anyone want to buy a used krytonite saddle?       A blockbuster actor to the very end.
Merlyn: Yer early....or as Cheney would say, "oily"
Merlyn: I got christopher reeves' autograph back in 1979
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "12:51 PM and late as usual, it's Zinger , just back from Billville."
Zinger : OILY!
Zinger : Did you ever notice, it's ALWAYS about oil.
Merlyn: "Like a barrel of oil, Cheney's crude but refined"
Merlyn: what's with the lunchtime chat?
Zinger : I don't know.
Zinger : As Idle said about the Rutles, a story that will last a lunchtime.
Merlyn: Napoleon is gone, he hasn't refreshed his page. The reaper will get him.
Zinger : Where should the VICE president drill, Lawn Cheney.
Merlyn: so it's really just us two
Zinger : Yep, and ain't sure about me.
Zinger : AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!
Merlyn: I don't trust anyone whose name ends in a space, myself... "Zinger "
Zinger : So you're the person who wanted to notified,.
Merlyn: I'm the only one who ever uses it, but I run the chatroom
Zinger : Don't trust anyone, not even yourself. Damn DNA.
Zinger : You are the bossman(woman) coo coo ca choo.
Merlyn: come back tonight and more people will be here.
Zinger : I don't think I can, tonight. But I'll attempt that, soon.
Zinger : TTFN
Merlyn: OK, it's every thursday night, so whenever
Merlyn: bye
||||||||| At 12:59 PM, Merlyn vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
||||||||| It's 1:00 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Napoleon Brand D - dead from the fiddlers
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 1 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 1:10 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Zinger - dead from jaundice
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!" -- then he looks around at the empty room, looks at his watch, and mumbles "...am I early?"
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 9:05 PM and Bubba's Brain steps out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
Bubba's Brain: We will step on no wine before its time.
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:06 PM and late as usual, it's Merlyn, just back from Billville."
Bubba's Brain: Hi, Bri.
Merlyn: I'm not late, Catherwood is early
Merlyn: hullo
Bubba's Brain: 110 of one, half a dozen of the other....
Merlyn: I'm doing some audio editing, so I might not always be around...
Bubba's Brain: That's okay.
Bubba's Brain: I'm pretty near getting some Otherworld titles out with David.
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:10 PM and late as usual, it's Dexter Fong, just back from Billville."
Bubba's Brain: Hey, Dex.
Dexter Fong: Evening Dear Friends
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:11 PM and late as usual, it's stephenfosterkane, just back from Billville."
Merlyn: any titles you can mention, BB?
Dexter Fong: Hi SFK
stephenfosterkane: hi Dex, Merlyn, BB
stephenfosterkane is just checking in; tell Dr. H., et. al. that he'll return in ab out a half-hour
Bubba's Brain: Yep -- War of the Worlds 50th, Goldfish, We Hold These Truths, and Empire of the Air should all (hopefully) come back from the duper tomorrow.
stephenfosterkane: he's dealing with unmentionables?
Dexter Fong: Will do
Bubba's Brain: Don't mention it.
stephenfosterkane: and he's been duped?
Merlyn: sounds good
stephenfosterkane: not as good as the master
Bubba's Brain: And there's more down the pike......
stephenfosterkane: oops -- I can be fined for saying that in the Temple
Dexter Fong: Perfect duping forever...GWB's slogan
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:13 PM and late as usual, it's llanwydd, just back from Billville."
llanwydd: hey
Dexter Fong: Hey Ilan
Bubba's Brain: Hey IL
Bubba's Brain: I. L Cool J....
llanwydd: so what were we talking about, the debate?
stephenfosterkane: GWB -- his master's voice!
Dexter Fong: Not me compadre
stephenfosterkane: doppelgangers
llanwydd: I was surprised how mediocre it was
Dexter Fong: With Bush that's par for the course..with Kerry, playing it safe I think
stephenfosterkane: i bet the TV guys were fuming that they finally had all those eyeballs for a debate and couldn't run commercials. maybe the candidates will have things like STP stickers all over their suits in 2008...
llanwydd: they both seemed awkward
||||||||| Catherwood steals into the room, and intones "Announcing 'Tweeno's Paradise', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 9:17 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the vestibule...
stephenfosterkane: par for the course or a supreme effort on his part, Dex? ;-)
Dexter Fong: Hey Tweeny =)
Tweeno's Paradise: Welcoming to Barbaria, my infidel friends!
Bubba's Brain: Hey Tween.
llanwydd: that would be great! The STP logo instead of the presidential seal
stephenfosterkane: OK offplanet for a while, back later. Hi Ilan, Tweeny; bye for a bit; CU all on Side Too
llanwydd: hi tweeno
Dexter Fong: SFK: It's hard to tel with George..don't know just how stupid or venal he is
stephenfosterkane: I thought PETA took care of the Presidential Seal thing...
Tweeno's Paradise: Definitely. Just like stock car drivers. Truth in advertizing.
Tweeno's Paradise: Flippy, the Presidential Seal?
Dexter Fong: I think Kerry had a Pat Tillman wristband on..may get fined or suspended for that
Bubba's Brain honks 3 times and balances a beach-ball on his nose.
Dexter Fong throws Bubba a fish
llanwydd: that's good. There was Checkers and there was Socks the cat. Now a presidential seal
Bubba's Brain: Arf Arf
Dexter Fong and holds the anchovys
Tweeno's Paradise: Throw him a fish...
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:20 PM and late as usual, it's karmacoma Yamamoto, just back from Billville."
Dexter Fong: Tween : Done
llanwydd: hi yam!
Tweeno's Paradise: Hey Yam.
Dexter Fong: Oi Yoy Yoy
Bubba's Brain: Hey, Yam.
karmacoma Yamamoto: oi
karmacoma Yamamoto dodges flying herring
llanwydd: Yam, have you read "Karma Cola" by Gita Mehta?
Tweeno's Paradise: Bush actualy presented himself pretty well. Same ole B.S. But well-presented.
Dexter Fong launches a Spruce Goose
karmacoma Yamamoto: I was not impressed
Bubba's Brain: What, what did you say? My herring is bad.
Bubba's Brain: I've got no herring in my left ear.
Tweeno's Paradise: I was impressed into the Royal Navy. Sailed with Old Dick Wrench.
Dexter Fong: Bubba: I *do* like your scrod piece
||||||||| cease waltzes in at 9:23 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
llanwydd: I thought that was maybe what you meant by karmacoma
cease: greetings
Dexter Fong: Tween: ShangHai?
Tweeno's Paradise: Yo, cease.
Dexter Fong: Hey Cat
karmacoma Yamamoto: oi
karmacoma Yamamoto: I prolly need to read Karma Cola
llanwydd: hi cat
Tweeno's Paradise: Take me to your leader, well, maybe after November.
karmacoma Yamamoto: That's not what my nick is from, to
cease: you mean he'll be different then?
karmacoma Yamamoto: not much
karmacoma Yamamoto: maybe more articualte
Dexter Fong: Cat: 'tis a consumation devotely to be wished for
Bubba's Brain: To paraphrase an oil company slogan -- Expect more from a leader.
llanwydd: It's interesting. It came out around 1980 if I remember right
karmacoma Yamamoto: an a gud speler and tipist
Tweeno's Paradise: Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber, is that it cease?
cease: i heard from doc. maybe some of the rest of you did too. out playing pool with the mrs. tonight
Dexter Fong: He's got some balls
karmacoma Yamamoto: Too cold for pool parties in NY
Bubba's Brain: Playing with his balls again....
karmacoma Yamamoto: Blue balls
Dexter Fong: Blue ball= 2 ball
Tweeno's Paradise: Reminds me of an Adam Sandler skit.
karmacoma Yamamoto: 2 blue balls
karmacoma Yamamoto: I'm not hip to adam sandler
Dexter Fong: = one 4 ball
Tweeno's Paradise: "A Game Of Pool". Klugman on TZ.
karmacoma Yamamoto: ?
Dexter Fong: TZ = Time Zinc ?
Tweeno's Paradise: Not one of my favorites by any means, but he comes up with a good one now and then. His movies are for pre-teens.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I zinc my time now and again
Dexter Fong: I zinc zat I do alzo
karmacoma Yamamoto: no clue, except I've heard the name
Tweeno's Paradise: Rod & Reel. The new TZ is more like Outer Limits.
cease: klugman for pre-teens? must be really smart
llanwydd: sounds like a george tirebiter production
Tweeno's Paradise: Ex SNL guy.
cease: i remember bergman saying the firesign's humour is for really smart high school, college kids
Bubba's Brain: In his Twilight years, no doubt.
||||||||| Elayne sneaks in around 9:29 PM, trying to avoid Catherwood because of last week's "unpleasant incident."
karmacoma Yamamoto: Haven't seen SNL since 1980
Dexter Fong: Hey Elayne
cease: hey el. long time no see
Bubba's Brain: Hey , E.
Elayne: Evenin' all!
Tweeno's Paradise: Some kids never grow up. Me, I think FST is going to go down in history with Marxs & Fields.
Tweeno's Paradise: Hey E.
llanwydd: hi elayne
Elayne momentarily forgets how to chat...
Elayne: Sorry, it's been awhile. :)
cease: bergman in his twilight years? still seems awfully bright
Bubba's Brain: You put one finger in front of the other....
cease: twilight zone perhaps
llanwydd: I saw the Klugman TZ I think. It was about a trumpet player, wasn't it?
Elayne: I tried that, Bubba's. I got slapped. Must've used the wrong finger.
Bubba's Brain: No Tirebiter in his Twilight (Zone) years.... it was a joke, didn't mean anything, wasn't meant to.
Elayne: Sorry I haven't called, Dex. I keep trying to figure out when I'm coming into Manhattan again.
Elayne: Dex, I don't suppose you'd be interested in attending a few minutes of a comic book convention next month. :)
Dexter Fong: I'll be here when you're ready
Tweeno's Paradise: Different episode. Met Gabriel (not Genesis). This one was a pool championship with Johathan Winters (who was dead at the time, much like now)..
Elayne: On the weekends? I can't get away on a weekday.
cease: speaking of comics, i've been reading a lot recently.
Elayne: I've become totally a Westchester gal, it's scary...
llanwydd: come to think of it, there more than one klugman TZ
Dexter Fong: Elayne: Hasn't that asshole boss of yours gone away yet?
cease: after that lush review in salon, i finally read alan moore, watchmen a few days ago
Elayne: Anything interesting, Cat? You've been reading far more than me. I'm just trying to work through all my Marvels at the moment...
cease: kind of neal gaiman light, or dark
Elayne: Dex, he came back today. He was away for 5 months.
karmacoma Yamamoto: You know we NY Fireheads should get together
Tweeno's Paradise: Westchester PA or NY?
Elayne: NY, Tweeno.
Elayne: Excellent idea, Yam. Another couple weeks and we should be ready for company, I want to file all our comics first.
Dexter Fong: E: Sounds like you let that window of opppportunity close
cease: i also read rall's 2024. don't like his drawing but the updating of 1984 quite relavent.
cease: also read The Fixer which wasn't as gloomy as grarazde, but close
Elayne: Not that easy, Dex. I have to jump through hoops to get vacation time. And every day I took I was either visiting my parents or sick...
cease: best of all i read Summer Blonde by Tomine. REALLY like that
Elayne: Yes, I liked 2024 a lot as well, Cat.
karmacoma Yamamoto: No rush, but I would like to meet some of the people I talk to
llanwydd: Why NY? There's nothing to do in New York City.
Tweeno's Paradise: Speaking of comics, anyone a fan of Mark Fiore animations?
karmacoma Yamamoto: yo
Elayne: We're right on the NY/Westchester border, easy access both to public transit and private. Although finding a parking spot might be tricky.
Dexter Fong: Ilan: Remeber that when you're up to your ass in snow
karmacoma Yamamoto: I can catch Metro North in Poughkepsie
Elayne: But you must come see us, Dex, since you helped so much with the moving stuff!!
cease: there's a vancouver woman whose name i don't know but her comic RabitHead got the vote for best book written in vancouver last year.
cease: not comic book, all books. i must find it
Tweeno's Paradise: Couple of good Flash animations: http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=17423, http://www.markfiore.com/animation/opposite.html
Dexter Fong: Elayne: Send a limo =))
Elayne: Oh, Fiore's a geniius...
llanwydd: I'm 300 miles north of NYC
Dexter Fong: Ilan: Arctic circle eh?
Tweeno's Paradise: I'm 2000 miles south of NYC.
llanwydd: I was in Albany today
Dexter Fong: Tween: Trop of Capricorn eh?
cease: good review of spiegelman's newest in today's paper
Tweeno's Paradise: Close. 200 miles from Mexico.
llanwydd: good place to be, tween
Dexter Fong: And ye shall know them by their latitude
Dexter Fong: Tween: Austin?
Tweeno's Paradise: Yep. Home of Willie, SRV, and some guy we sent to D.C. because we wanted to get rid of him.
Dexter Fong: Tom Delay?
cease: el, does tomine have any other books besides summer blonde? i hope my libray has them
Elayne: Ooh, I loved Oppositeland, Tweeno, thanks!
Tweeno's Paradise: He should have been delayed in school. Luckily he and his friends are under serious invetigation for election fraud.
llanwydd: I've been there. In fact San Antonio is the furthest west I've ever been
Tweeno's Paradise: THey're sending him to the vet.
Elayne: Cat, I don't know from this Tomine person.
Elayne: Yam, what Metro North line is that?
Dexter Fong: Tween: Yes and been censored by House Committee but still not enough..needs to be burned at the stake, Texas BarBQue style
||||||||| It's 9:40 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Merlyn - dead from The Plague
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Elayne: By the way, I just wanted y'all to know that you're cheap and tawdry.
Dexter Fong: Marlyn killed himself
Tweeno's Paradise: Merle, we hardly knew ye...
Elayne: And to thank you for that.
Dexter Fong: Merlyn
cease: Adrian Tomine. a neighbour of the guy who did Ghost World, a comic i much preferred to the flick. tomine is much like him, only better.
Bubba's Brain: Oh, no, I better speak now, before I fade away.
Tweeno's Paradise: I ain't cheap. I'z expensive. No gonna habta be a slave no more. We gwanna take turns...
Elayne: No, Robin's never heard of him either, sorry Cat.
llanwydd: Tawdry Hepburn?
Dexter Fong: and Bubba leaps to the head of the line
cease: summer blonde was so good it made me want to create comics, which is of course impossible but maybe something wilth film
Bubba's Brain: The best always go first, Dex.
karmacoma Yamamoto is not gone
cease: you know the ghost world guy? i forget his name
Dexter Fong: Chat fast, die young and leave a good looking Nick
karmacoma Yamamoto: ha ha
Elayne: Dex, where do you live? As I'm with car now, as long as I stick to the outer boros I'm fairly mobile...
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "9:42 PM and late as usual, it's Merlyn, just back from Billville."
cease: speaking of flix made from comics, i vastly preferred American Splendour the Movie to the comics. it was really imaginative.
Bubba's Brain: Welcome back to the living!
Dexter Fong: Elayne: St. Marks Place in Manhattan
Merlyn: Didn't think I was gone that long
karmacoma Yamamoto: with car? THat must hurt....
Tweeno's Paradise: Reintrucknated!
cease: i hope to visit you and robin and dex too (and others?) when i come east next spring
cease: i owe you all a dinner for your work on red shift. at least!
Elayne: Ah, that'd be public transit then, Dex, I won't drive into Manhattan. :) But mayhap I can schlep your way one of these weekends.
Elayne: I hope so too, Cat! You can stay with us if you like. Is Fumiyo coming as well?
||||||||| Dr. Headphones sneaks in around 9:44 PM, trying to avoid Catherwood because of last week's "unpleasant incident."
Dr. Headphones: hello, dear friends
Elayne: We'll have a grand ol' party for you, Cat, never fear.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Dunno if you all would like meeting me, I'm so poor and un-hip
Dexter Fong: E: Give me a call and maybe we can work something out
Bubba's Brain: Hey, Dr H.
Dexter Fong: Hey Kend^
Elayne: 'S okay, Yam, I'm fat and old! We're about even! :)
cease: no, she's inseparable from Icy the Dog. just me this trip
llanwydd: hey kend
Dexter Fong: Ken: SFK said he would be back
Elayne: I'll try to call you tomorrow afternoon, Dex.
Tweeno's Paradise: Speaking of suicide, I hear taking a car into the city is quite the Kamikaze adventure.
cease: i've been in touch with Richard Arnold in DC and really look forward to finaly meeting him, after all the work he did on the bitsite
Tweeno's Paradise: Yo Ken.
Elayne: I know, you've heard that before. :) But I really will try to remember...
Dexter Fong: E: OK
karmacoma Yamamoto: I've done it, but then I've driven in the Third World
Dexter Fong: Tween: Not really
Elayne: I'm getting much better at writing again, at least. Of course, my off-line reading has gone by the wayside...
Dr. Headphones: i can't stay long, but will a few, maybe half hour or so
Tweeno's Paradise: Liverpool, Yam?
Elayne: Except for Entertainment Weekly in the bathroom. Speaking of which... BRB...
cease: hi kend
Dexter Fong: Ken: Why's that?
karmacoma Yamamoto: Phillipines, mostly
cease: what are you writing, el?
Dr. Headphones: dex: i'm going to school, need to get up at 545
Dexter Fong: What course(s)?
Tweeno's Paradise: If it's anything like playing chicken with the taxi drivers in Cancun...
Dr. Headphones: you won't believe this, but it's true. i'm going to truck driving school :) gonna be a big rigger, 18 wheeler
cease: taking bush's advice, kend? back to jr. college to get new job for the 21st century?
karmacoma Yamamoto: You learn how to determine if a bus doing 140 km/h is going to pull up with no prior indication whatsoever
Dr. Headphones: state offered to pay for it, said i was ripe for retraining. they pay 100%, so i could hardly turn it down.
Tweeno's Paradise: Whoa, Ken. The REAL road trip.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Rock on
Dexter Fong: Woah!!! Pedal Steel Heavy Metal School of Truck Driving
Dr. Headphones: yessirree, bob, mr. tweeny
karmacoma Yamamoto: take road snaps
Tweeno's Paradise: Shades of Bride of Firesign.
cease: i suggest you go back into your past and delete any knowledge of neal cassady you may have, before you get behind the wheel
Dr. Headphones: i got the trucker's version of rand-mcnally :)
cease: indeed, tweeno
karmacoma Yamamoto: The Standard Mileage Guide?
cease: randy mcnally, a firesign character.
Dexter Fong: Most popular course these days is Punjabi...You can be outsorced along with your job
cease: i forget, maybe tile it like it is? sesame mucho?
Dr. Headphones: i don't know how standard it is, but i'll trust it
karmacoma Yamamoto: Bland Mc Crappy?
Dr. Headphones: uh, i will stick to the u.s. of a. and maybe ontario, leave punjab, baghdad and kabul to the others
Tweeno's Paradise: Can't see moving to India any time soon.
cease: indiana?
Elayne: Back. Hang on whilst I catch up with the log...
llanwydd: is that a pun job, dex?
karmacoma Yamamoto: I use mapapolis
Tweeno's Paradise: Indiana wants me, but I can't go back there.
Dr. Headphones: well, yam, i think paper will work better than internet since only text email in cab
Dexter Fong: Ilan: Don't caste me in that role
llanwydd: I can't imagine why punjabi would be so popular
Tweeno's Paradise: You could make REALLY good money in Iraq, Ken (stifled laughter).
karmacoma Yamamoto: It's a Palm app
cease: have you been to the british museum, el?
Tweeno's Paradise: If you don't mind a shoulder-length haircut.
Dr. Headphones: oh yeah, i'm waiting for that halliburton contract so i can sign it. $200k/year, prorated to the date of beheading
Elayne: Okay, finished catching up. No Cat, I've never been to the British Museum but Robin has.
Dr. Headphones: ah, palm! i don't have one, but would consider it
Elayne: And all I'm writing at the moment is my weblog, but I wasn't even doing that for awhile...
karmacoma Yamamoto: Beheading NOT covered by health insurance
Bubba's Brain: Me, I'm waiting for the hallitosis contract....
Bubba's Brain: ... with baited breath.
Dexter Fong: mmmm anchovys
karmacoma Yamamoto: Ken: Palm mapopolis is 94% accurate for this area
cease: the reason i would go to london would be to see it. tomorrow i'm going to see its travelling egyptian show in victoria, speaking of getting up early to catch boat
Dr. Headphones sings: if you knew sushi, like i knew sushi......
cease: hopefully, not the one to hell
Tweeno's Paradise: It'll me interesting to see if they give the Mexican trucks free roam of the states. They make from nada in terms of pay.
Dr. Headphones: tweeny: and their safety standards are about 5% of ours
cease: what are all these mexicans doing here?
Bubba's Brain: Working.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Look out for the ones that say Benzadrinos by the cab
Dexter Fong: The Hat Dance
Tweeno's Paradise: They call me Bruce!
llanwydd: the foxtrot
Dr. Headphones: we'se the pills bros!
Bubba's Brain: the back stroke
karmacoma Yamamoto: Tho they prolly cop to Meth these days
Tweeno's Paradise: The problem is the pollution contols and safety inspections on the MX trucks.
Dexter Fong: Stroking the backs of the Black Folk
Dr. Headphones: back stroke? i thought they happened only in the brain
karmacoma Yamamoto: Los Hermansos de los Drugas
Bubba's Brain: I'll stroke your back if you'll stroke mine...
Dexter Fong: Olla Vato
cease: we take drugs seriously at our house
karmacoma Yamamoto: Los Amigos del Muerte...
karmacoma Yamamoto: Pi Vato!
karmacoma Yamamoto: Oi
Dr. Headphones: no drugs for me. the piss test must be passed!
Tweeno's Paradise: I gotta tell you, I feel for the people who get backed into the backs of trucks or shipping containers or whatever. I wish MX's economy could take a turn more towards that of Canada.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Passing a piss test? All those test tubes? Ow
Dexter Fong: Ken: Don't forget to wear your baggies over your head
Elayne: Oh no, you have to take a test to piss now? Geez, is it like piss or fail?
Dr. Headphones: my piss test was true/false. i selected false. when they graded it, i was right, so 100%. only one question on it
karmacoma Yamamoto: Plus you need that buzz cut
Dexter Fong: E: YOur in
Merlyn: I was graded on distance
Elayne: Dang, all the boys always get graded on distance! It's not fair!
Dexter Fong: In my day you had to piss up a rope
Bubba's Brain: You don't need to put it in the test tube, Yam.
llanwydd: no a piss test is the breathalyzer
karmacoma Yamamoto: http://mryamamoto.50megs.com/rochester/rocattendees.jpg
karmacoma Yamamoto: I did both
Dr. Headphones: merl: no joke, when i was first in college, 18 y/0, at frat house we had piss tests. two categories--distance and duration. of course, you had to declare one or the other, no second chances
llanwydd: If you fail the breathalyzer they know you're pissed
Dexter Fong drift off for a refill
Elayne: You're the one in red, right Yam?
karmacoma Yamamoto: Note the gforward individual for proper buzzcuttage
karmacoma Yamamoto: Howd ya guess
Elayne: I can't be sure but I think I've met you. :)
Elayne: Robin wants to know if any of you have the Boom Dot Bust DVD-A.
karmacoma Yamamoto: You may have: Have any dealings w/Home Therapy Equipment?
Dr. Headphones: met him? i thought it was yankee territory
Elayne: We just got a player that does DVD-A's.
Elayne: Um, no Yam, but you look awfully familiar. Maybe I met your Yammelganger.
Tweeno's Paradise: No DVD here. One of these days.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I have many, it seems
cease: is it worth having, el?
Merlyn: I have a sewing machine that does BVDs
karmacoma Yamamoto: Westchester is part of my Territory
cease: i have 2 firesign dvds but the medium doesnt seem to fit them
Elayne: That's what Robin wants to find out, Cat. :) He's ordered the DVD-A, which I didn't know until this momeng.
Elayne: (momet)
Elayne: (moment)
Elayne: Thanks Robin!
cease: i love the liner notes they did for the cds, but the plays are just fine without explication
cease: merl must have it
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 10 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Elayne: I don't know any Westchester therapists (yet), Yam. Only my buddy Jan in Manhattan.
Elayne: Jan's a Firesign fan. Actually her husband Maury is much more of one.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I do heavy stuff: Oxygen and Beds
Elayne: Merlyn? Are you there? Do you own the Boom Dot Bust DVD-A?
Tweeno's Paradise: Warning, warning - explicate material.
Elayne: You know, you can't live without either oxygen OR beds, so it must be quite rewarding.
Dr. Headphones: my bed is surrounded by oxygen/nitrogen mix, even when i sleep
Merlyn: yes, elayne, I have the BDB audio DVD
karmacoma Yamamoto: I do ok
Dexter Fong: Ken: You ever get the bends?
llanwydd: I was watching a video about British comedians yesterday. We Americans have missed a lot
karmacoma Yamamoto: not getting rich, but I like the work
Merlyn: I can't get to any of the extras, though
Elayne: You know, when I bend, I find that's when I need the oxygen most.
llanwydd: Anyone heard of Ken Dodd?
Dr. Headphones: dex: only when i tie my shoes or drop something on the floor
Elayne: Name sounds familiar, Llan.
Tweeno's Paradise: Got to get some Goon Show recordings.
llanwydd: I recognized Dodd immediately. I had seen him as Yorick in Branagh's "Hamlet"
Merlyn: I bought a bunch of goon show CDs when spike died; I think I missed one and got a duplicate
llanwydd: He's hilarious
Merlyn: heh, llen
cease: isnt there some online somewhere, tween?
Merlyn: llan
Dexter Fong: Hamlet?
cease: there must be. i must have heard it
Merlyn: dodd must have a distinct skull
llanwydd: I'm sorry we Americans missed out on the BBC
Bubba's Brain: Little ham?
cease: alas, poor yorick. you were never rich
cease: ham? let me!
Tweeno's Paradise: Ya mean like NAPSTER of Limewire?
Dexter Fong: I lived in NF USA, heard a lot of BBC via CBC
Tweeno's Paradise: Laugh.com probably carries them.
llanwydd: it was probably the only performance anyone ever did as Yorick
Bubba's Brain: Hamlet, how I love ya, how I love ya, my dear old Hammy....
cease: orange, jews?
Dr. Headphones: hamlet is hard to read, but easy to watch
Merlyn: wait, it was del close who did that (or did that too?), llan
cease: i wanna orange. or The Sun!
Tweeno's Paradise: Orange Julius?
cease: del close's skull
Dexter Fong: Merl: What venue (where) did DC do Yorick
llanwydd: I played the King of Denmark in a stage production of Hamlet a couple of years ago
karmacoma Yamamoto: Del Webbs Skull City?
Tweeno's Paradise: Et tu, orange man?
Merlyn: del close left his skull to be used in hamlet productions; it's even on the xm pages: http://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/xmradio/show5/
Bubba's Brain: Del Close did "How To Speak Hip" -- which is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
Tweeno's Paradise: Grid I wish the guys were still on XM.
Merlyn: Chicago's Goodman Theatre, dex
Dr. Headphones: bub: i have that as mp3 files, but have never listened to them
stephenfosterkane: Hi Ken, Elayne, Yam, Cat!
Dexter Fong: Second City?
Dr. Headphones: hey klok
llanwydd: I hadn't heard that, Merl
cease: a friend of that firesign friend in phoeix, doctor somebody
Merlyn: he was a second city alum
cease: klok
stephenfosterkane: so how goes the training, Dr. H?
Dr. Headphones: doc scalia?
stephenfosterkane: are you a danger to Nat'l Security yet?
Merlyn: Here's the PP that mentions it: http://www.planetproctor.com/1999/pp99-15.html
Dr. Headphones: klok: doing well on written stuff, haven't started pushing pedals yet. that's next week
Dexter Fong: Merl: Yes he was..founding member maybe?
Bubba's Brain: All of the album, Ken?
karmacoma Yamamoto: who me?
Merlyn: Speaking of danger, the Firesign guys are looking into this: http://www.wearnickdanger.com
Dr. Headphones: bub: i'm not sure. i downloade off alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.comedy or some such newsgroup
cease: did pp know him? i'd be surprised if he didnt
stephenfosterkane has been watching his tape of the Concert for Change. it ran over, so the tape is something of a mess
Merlyn: PP probably knew del close at some point
Bubba's Brain: I found MP3's of some of the tracks. And there's a site selling it as a CD, but I don't know if they're doing it legally.
stephenfosterkane: sheesh, is that a rip-off, Merlyn?
Merlyn: the guy who started a line of sweaters(!?) named "Nick Danger" apparently thought his nickname was original.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Merl, I smell Rip Off
Merlyn: as far as I can tell, he doesn't know Firesign Theatre from a hole in the ground.
stephenfosterkane: one suspects he'll be educated real fast...
Dexter Fong: Ha!
Dexter Fong: "Patents Protected"
karmacoma Yamamoto: Those clothes are terrible
cease: a firesign sized hole in his head
stephenfosterkane: the opening/closing logo is suspicious if he's naieve!
karmacoma Yamamoto: Worse fashion sense than me
Bubba's Brain: http://www.howtospeakhip.com/
Dexter Fong: Rip Off T-Shirts, a wholely owned subsidiary of Tear Away Jersey
stephenfosterkane: it has a '40s/'50s look to it
stephenfosterkane: are those from the UK, Dex?
Dexter Fong: Not related to Rawway Jersey
karmacoma Yamamoto: No one would miss jersey if weretorn away
Merlyn: They've got a big billboard in NYC; here's the blog where I found out: http://blahg.blank.org/index.php?p=291&c=1#comments
llanwydd: That's Rahway
karmacoma Yamamoto: Bad clor matching....
Dexter Fong: Merl: *Everybodies* got a big billboard in NYC
karmacoma Yamamoto: color
Merlyn: But FT also hasn't done anything to the guy who owns nickdanger.com, either.
cease: is new jersey actually tied? bush/kerry? that's scary
karmacoma Yamamoto: Rah Rah Rah, hat's the spirit we have here
Dexter Fong: We're changing the name to Billboard Ville
karmacoma Yamamoto: Tie Died New Jersey
stephenfosterkane: blame what's her face who's currently mangling the EPA; she was governator...
karmacoma Yamamoto: I think the polls are crap
llanwydd: I heard Jersey is for Bush because of 911
Dexter Fong: It's kind of a Coup Deville
Tweeno's Paradise: Start covering the sides of the buildings with LCD panels.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Cop De Ville
Dexter Fong: That's Alvin "cop" De Vilee
Tweeno's Paradise: I'll cop to that.
karmacoma Yamamoto: They may be trying to fake out Bush so he doesn't declare a sudden "Emergency" before election day
Dr. Headphones: crap, i've been sending stuff privately that should have been public
Dr. Headphones: sorry, bub
karmacoma Yamamoto: Keep yr Publics Private pal!
Tweeno's Paradise: See ya down at the pub.
Dr. Headphones: i keep my pubics private except to a select few. sorry, yam, you ain't on the list
karmacoma Yamamoto: if Kerry had a substantial lead, how much you wanna bet that Osama wouldn't suddenly come to life....
Dr. Headphones: well, dear friends, i think i'll check out my eyelids for pinholes now. see ya next week if not sooner or later :)
Bubba's Brain: T'salright.
||||||||| It's 10:20 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Elayne - dead from the common cold
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
cease: by kend
Dexter Fong: Night Ken: Good luck in school
cease: el
Dr. Headphones: alas, elayne
karmacoma Yamamoto: nite
Tweeno's Paradise: Anbody think Iraq's going to get better any time soon, what with the bombings in the Green sector today?
Dexter Fong: Keep the shiny side up and the other side over
Tweeno's Paradise: O resevoir, Ken.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Tween?
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karmacoma Yamamoto: like ha
Dexter Fong: Tween: It ain't gonna get better as long as GWB is in office
karmacoma Yamamoto: NFW
Tweeno's Paradise: What would Kerry do?
llanwydd: bush has turned iraq into a permanent holocaust
Dexter Fong: Kerry would be able to bring other countries into it
karmacoma Yamamoto: Anything is better than what WMD isn't doing now
stephenfosterkane: nite ken
Dexter Fong: Also Kerry would not be over ther stealing like a bandito Grande
Tweeno's Paradise: Would it make a differencs to the insurgents? Egypt & Jordan troops, maybe.
stephenfosterkane: Dex - you mean, like Iran?
karmacoma Yamamoto: or a burrito grande
Dexter Fong: Yes
Dexter Fong: Yes Tween
Dexter Fong: Klok: Expicate
karmacoma Yamamoto: Not insurgents: Resistance
Dexter Fong: Explicate
Tweeno's Paradise: Yeah, Haliburton would be sent packing.
Dexter Fong: Hopefully go to jail
stephenfosterkane: the resistance has a different time scale than the US
Merlyn: Damn, dr headphones left - I just changed the code so the BG color of the message bar changes if you aren't sending to everyone...
Dexter Fong: Merl: Locking the barn door etc............
stephenfosterkane: the current information on Allawi is not very encouraging -- he's staffing up the place with former Baathists
Tweeno's Paradise: Don't know what relationship Kerry has with defense contractors, but it couldn't be as bad as this...
Merlyn: Because I'm always doing that too - sending private messages instead of "to all"
karmacoma Yamamoto: Sadam II
karmacoma Yamamoto: what wonderful irony
Tweeno's Paradise: Thanks, Merl. Good idea.
stephenfosterkane: how come there's not a "send to some"? ;-)
Dexter Fong: Twenn: Nothing is or ever was as bad as this...seriously
stephenfosterkane: what? Dex? explicate
Dexter Fong: T
Dexter Fong: Klok: The Iran reference
Tweeno's Paradise: If Iran gets nukes, well, there's an old Country Joe and the Fish song that comes to mind...
stephenfosterkane: actually, in terms of Saddam, the US has on hand the one guy with proven credentials in establishing security and order in Iraq
Dexter Fong: Iran prolly will get nukes
cease: re nothing as bad, we may look upon these as the good old days in the future
cease: aka carly simon
stephenfosterkane: so, Iran gets nukes...
Dexter Fong: I miss WW2...the Narzi's and the Japs and the Ities
Tweeno's Paradise: What Bush has done is convince people that the only way NOT to get invaded is to have nukes.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Iran will need a delivery system to be a threat to us, tho
stephenfosterkane doesn't see the problem with nuclear Iran
Dexter Fong: Tween: You got it...Mutual Deterrent I believe it's callled
karmacoma Yamamoto: Only we and Rosskies and Chinese have that thus far
Tweeno's Paradise: Same way they're doing it now. Cars. Trucks.
stephenfosterkane: while our Brave Leader has been fritzing away the time in Iraq and persecuting those who can't defend themselves, Pakistan and N. Korea have acquired nukes, delivery systems, and very, very bad attitudes
karmacoma Yamamoto: it's 8k miles to the us. Water's in the way....
cease: lets invite over a bunch of robots and make cars
Dexter Fong: Cat: lol
Tweeno's Paradise: Paskistan is a real gem of Democracy, isn;t it?
stephenfosterkane: with Iran, we're looking at making a bomb, testing a bomb, making the bomb fit on rockets and then....what to do with it. rattle sabers?
Dexter Fong: Tween: It's not a *good* democracy but it's our democracy
karmacoma Yamamoto: Russia and China wouldn't sell em ICBM technology, too much of a risk
stephenfosterkane: meanwhile, Bush is "negotiating with a madman" in N. Korea and they just about CAN hit us now and pretty certainly have nukes. plural. ready to go.
Merlyn: but we didn't get the best government money can buy...
cease: north korea would sell em one of kim's, cheap
Dexter Fong: Russia and even China are now market driven =))
Tweeno's Paradise: I would remind you that Musharrif was brought to power in a military coup.
cease: a,q. kahn would get a cut
stephenfosterkane: and neither is screwed together too well at the moment, Dex
Bubba's Brain: Kaaaaaaahhhhhhnnnnn!
Dexter Fong: Mr. Chairman: Tweeny's out of order
cease: the wrath of kahn
karmacoma Yamamoto: Nixon's karma
Bubba's Brain: Sorry -- channelling Shatner.
stephenfosterkane: Pakistan is hiding out Osama and laughing at us
stephenfosterkane: Bubba - his new CD is...strange
Dexter Fong: Klok: Maybe they'll give him to Kerry
Merlyn: But Shatner isn't dead - you must be channelling one of his old toupeés
Tweeno's Paradise: The all-Shatner channel.
Bubba's Brain: That's a scary thought.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Shatner gets weirder by the day
Dexter Fong: "You're dead, Jim"
Merlyn: I think all his toupées were dead...
Bubba's Brain: Star Trek Saturdays. TJ Hooker Tuesdays....
Tweeno's Paradise: Seen his new TV series?
Dexter Fong: Jim's dead but his toupees live on in vibrant technicolor
karmacoma Yamamoto: Didn't he o to the Hair Club For Men?
Merlyn: is it "toupée" or "toupeé" or "toupéé"?
karmacoma Yamamoto: I'll take no. 3
Bubba's Brain: That's no Toupe, that's a Tribble!
Dexter Fong: Show off
stephenfosterkane: Dex -- I have been listening. Kerry has not said WORD ONE about Pakistan He is spouting Bush's party line on Pakistan as far as I can tell. I don't have a good feeling about that.
Merlyn: I never was very good with accents
Tweeno's Paradise: THat was the Tortise Club for Men.
llanwydd: I heard Shatner's "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" recently (on NPR of all places!)
karmacoma Yamamoto: Don't expect a lot from Kerry
Dexter Fong: It's got to be better than GWB
cease: i like what howard zinn said about kerry on the maj report
llanwydd: it was the corniest thing I've heard since Leonard Nimoy's song about Bilbo Baggins
Tweeno's Paradise: At least Kerry would stop the bleeding on many fronts. We might still have a Constitution in 4 years, and the Supreme Court wouldn't be packed.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Perhaps, but marginally
cease: with kerry,, you get a tiny ledge. with bush, i'ts just free fall
Merlyn: Shatner's toupeé would be better than GWB
Tweeno's Paradise: Ditto, cease.
Dexter Fong: Yam: No...a lot better than marginally...democrats do a better job, period
stephenfosterkane: Ilan -- his new CD Has Been has some good cuts; "Common People" for example. They have been playing this cut on KEXP and KCRW since it came out week B4 last.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I dunno, Clinton was noit overly imporessive
Tweeno's Paradise: KCRW is pretty cool. Been tuning in on the net recently.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I expect kerry to be likwise
stephenfosterkane wonders how Kerry would get anything done if the Rs still control House and Senate
cease: it wasnt that clinton did good, it's that he didn't wreak havoc, like your current fuerher
karmacoma Yamamoto: if he has an opposition parliment, don't expect much
Tweeno's Paradise: At least Clinton balanced the budget and started paying down the debt. It'll take a decade to fix this financial mess.
stephenfosterkane: yeah, Tween, I listen to MBE most days
Dexter Fong: Yam: Clinton took over a country with a depression, a massive debt, unemployment and homeless people and in 6 years built up a trillion dollar surplus, created over 6 million jobs etc
stephenfosterkane: ...and all people will remember is Monica Lewinsky
karmacoma Yamamoto: who?
Dexter Fong: Klok: Yep
cease: i woulndt say clinton did that, dex. more, he didn't prevent it from happening
llanwydd: despite what the republicans say about clinton, I seem to remember eight years of prosperity and relative peace
Tweeno's Paradise: The things happening "under the desk" in this administration are somewhat bore grave than a BJ.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Welfare Reform sticks in my craw
Dexter Fong: Cat: Not true...he's a Rhodes scolar in economics..he knew what to do to bring about a better and growing economy
stephenfosterkane: Ilan -- the folks in, say, Rwanda have somewhat different recollections...those that are still with us
cease: you know more of that than i, dex
Bubba's Brain: Craw, Craw!
cease: i know he's smart
karmacoma Yamamoto: Well the Repubicans should be sodomized w/a cattle prod every time the yelp about clinton
Dexter Fong: You stuck Bubba
Tweeno's Paradise: I used to have a Rhodes piano. Do I qualify?
llanwydd: I didn't say WORLD peace
Dexter Fong: Yam: And even went they dont mention him
stephenfosterkane: clinton had a talent for persuading. the Rs finally had to send a "keeper" along with Newt G when he met with Clinton to keep him from giving away the candy store
cease: but i think a lot of that internet-based growth wasnt so much caused by clinton than unimpeded, even if gore did invent it
karmacoma Yamamoto: fair enough
cease: yes i heard that, klok
Dexter Fong: Cat: It wasn't just internet bubble that creatd the good economy
stephenfosterkane: cat - the internet bubble was distinct from the growth of the REAL economy during clinton years
Dexter Fong: Thank you Senator Kolk
cease: i liked robert reich.
llanwydd: As for Rwanda, I still don't understand how anyone can be afraid of people called "Tootsies"
Dexter Fong: =)
llanwydd: maybe I just don't understand
Dexter Fong: Tot Tot Tootsie's Bye Bye
Tweeno's Paradise: Robert Reich is a very smart man.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Thhey were vicious fuckers w/pointy stix
stephenfosterkane: what disturbed me was his fumbly foreign policy (although I'm nostalgic for it now, after Bush) and his callous move to the right to co-opt the swing voters just one side of center
Bubba's Brain: An army of Dustin Hoffman's in Drag?
Dexter Fong: adk for brb
cease: under clinton there was certain intellectual stimulation throughout. under bush it's just politics, as i think dilulio or whatever his name is said
Bubba's Brain: It'd scare me.
Tweeno's Paradise: THey should have made Dustin Hoffman the ambassador.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Bush is Regan w/o acting skills
cease: i think clinton's biggest fuck up was rwanda. it's not quite kissinger in cambodia, but similar preventable death tolls
stephenfosterkane: Ilan -- read Samantha Powers' A Problem From Hell, the chapter on Rwanda. Your library should have it. Keep the airsick bag handy.
cease: would clinton have or be intervening in dafour now?
Tweeno's Paradise: He did fairly well in the Baltics, I do believe. It isn't over, but it could have gotten worse. Of course, they were white Euros...
cease: yes she's on tv all the time, klok. i know more about rwanda than i care too
karmacoma Yamamoto: Well africa is generally a clustrefuck, anyway
cease: romeo delaire is on the news all the time here, endlessly educating canadians about it.
Tweeno's Paradise: Good question, cease.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Not an easy place to deal with
Tweeno's Paradise: Hard to park an aircraft carrier off of Rawanda or Darfur.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Bush is ignoring the Sudan
cease: hey you two tribes, stop butchering each other or i'll send you to your room!
stephenfosterkane: Tween - the Rs tried to block Clinton in the Balkans and did a pretty good job. Nobody would go in there. From my point of view, all the people fighting had cars and TV sets. In Rwanda, most didn't have a pot to piss in.
Dexter Fong: We'll keep the light on
cease: that's funny, yammy. it has oil
karmacoma Yamamoto: Whatever they're calling the Congo these days, Zimbabwe....
Tweeno's Paradise: Well, with 1/2 the American Army in Iraq, it rather limits the Joint Chiefs' options.
cease: 3 million dead
cease: to make cell phones. oh mr. danger, it's for You
stephenfosterkane: Everybody is ignoring the Sudan. China is drilling for oil there. They have veto in UN Security Council. African Union won't do anything.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Well we really don't need to be in iraq, do we?
cease: fucking canada is drilling for oil there
cease: i heard the african union sent a few troops
karmacoma Yamamoto: Would be hard to justify terror against us if we did a big humanitarian number on the Sudanese
stephenfosterkane: cat - there's 2 million dead in the Congo, nothing happening there, either. Black Africa does not exist on the radar unless it has oil. Nigeria is "more or less" stable at the moment, so...
llanwydd: now its called Zambibia
Tweeno's Paradise: Now that we're there, Yam, what are we going to do? Pull out and let the dogs of civil war munch?
Dexter Fong: Cat: AU sent troops being utilized by Gov't to make sure rebels are wiped out
cease: aha
stephenfosterkane: Yam - no, it's not working for us in Iraq. I expect Bush will declare "victory" and push all the troops into Iran, our deadly enemy.
karmacoma Yamamoto: All we do is prolong the inevitable anyway
Dexter Fong: and accentuate the positive
Tweeno's Paradise: Oh good. Let's be at war with the Arabs _and_ the Persians.
karmacoma Yamamoto: We aren't going to stabilize iraq with current policy
stephenfosterkane: What's fascinating is how we are re-enacting the British occupation of Iraq 80 years ago almost to a 'T'
karmacoma Yamamoto: Instability is preferable: it sustains the status quo
cease: where's lord balfour when we need him?
Dexter Fong: Yam: GWB soesn't want/care if it's stabilized or not
Tweeno's Paradise: Funny how we advise Putin to have a "political" solution to Chechnya ;)
Dexter Fong: Ballfour..take your base
stephenfosterkane: rotating at high speed, Cat, rotating at high speed...
karmacoma Yamamoto: Fascisim, Communisim and Terrorisim are all designed to function in unstable conditions, otherwise they're not sustainable
cease: bouton, bout off
Dexter Fong: Tween: war is an extension of politics
stephenfosterkane: yeah, he goosed the Zionists once, cat, but they didn't get fooled twice
karmacoma Yamamoto: Orwell knew what the fuck he was talking about in 1984
cease: must have been the near death expereince, yammy
Dexter Fong: Goose me once..uh....shame on ...uh...you...Gose me agi...uh...Won't get goosed again
Tweeno's Paradise: In that case, the politicians of the world suck at their jobs.
karmacoma Yamamoto: I guess
cease: all those dead catalonians
Dexter Fong: Tween: Yes! You've got it!
karmacoma Yamamoto: But you think about it for a minute
Merlyn: ironic that a cowboy prez leads to unSTABLE conditions, eh?
stephenfosterkane: Dex - LOL on Bush parody!
cease: goose gossage? is he still alive?
Merlyn: and suspicious smells, too
Dexter Fong: Klok: Impersonation is on the marccchhh
karmacoma Yamamoto: OK Corrral mentality
Tweeno's Paradise: Bush is just too much fun with an A/V editing program. LeShow had a really good rap on Bush's "hard work" theme. Got it on MP3 for anyone interested.
Merlyn: spruce up goose gossage
stephenfosterkane: Natalie Manes in the Concert for Change: "We must stop mad cowboy disease"
Merlyn: got a link, tween?
Dexter Fong: Corrral mentality..You talking about reef(ere\)s Yam
cease: mr hughs, there's a mr. nixon to see you
karmacoma Yamamoto: Actually he's from CT, where the roadsigns suck
Tweeno's Paradise: Give me your e-mail address (mine's smpteguy@sbcglobal.net) and I'll attach it to the reply.
karmacoma Yamamoto: playing off the old west joke....
stephenfosterkane: Tween - much inside about L. Balfour in Margaret McMillan's Paris, 1919, worth reading
Dexter Fong: (Nixon) Mr. Huge where's that jane Russell..you know...the one with the really big...uh....hooters
Tweeno's Paradise: I'll see if the library's got it.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Bresteses
karmacoma Yamamoto thinks of boobs
Dexter Fong: Yes...that's the word...Good thinking Mr. Yam
karmacoma Yamamoto: and not the pair in the white house either
cease: i was looking for that book in the library today but it's too heavy to shlep on the ferry to victoria tomorrow.
stephenfosterkane: Balfour Declaration, Sykes-Picot agreement, and the promises made to Hussein (as detailed in Lawrence of Arabia all oversubscribed the Middle East to every possible interested party and mostly in totally incompatible form
cease: i couljdt find bride so i just put in imortaltiy. a much better cd anyway
Tweeno's Paradise: We forget that Iraq was an invention.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Gotta love imperialisim
cease: i dont know their newer stuff nearly enough
karmacoma Yamamoto: As is most of africa
karmacoma Yamamoto: and Austrailia
cease: looking forward to seeing em in jan in seattle. is that still on, merl?
stephenfosterkane: it's a big book Cat. you'll find Rupert Murdoch's father tagging along with the Australian PM to Versailles. Ho Chi Minh was a cook at the Ritz at the time...amazing confluence of Names...
karmacoma Yamamoto: And New Zealand
llanwydd: Immortality is the best of the "Millenial Trilogy"
karmacoma Yamamoto: and us....
cease: doc/lili scheduling their trip based on it
cease: by far, llan
stephenfosterkane: how are Australia and NZ inventions?
cease: yes klok, macmil is on the tube or the cbc radio all the time here. she's a big celeb. reading the book will be anticlimactic after hearing her describe it endlessly on cbc
karmacoma Yamamoto: Superimposition of GB on existing native/aboriginal cultures
llanwydd: I'd almost be willing to fly out to Seattle to see them but I'm touring the Adirondacks with "The Diary of Anne Frank"
stephenfosterkane: oh, the detail is the thing, cat. it's incredibly complicated -- what the situation was and what the priorities were and what actually happened
karmacoma Yamamoto: NZ's Maori culture was quite extensive
Tweeno's Paradise: Don't they want to learn to sip tea?
llanwydd: it looks like we'll be going until March
stephenfosterkane: still is, Yam. Hangi anyone?
karmacoma Yamamoto: Part of the larger general Polynesian culture, mostly wiped out by us.
cease: i was actually thinking of it when we went to versailles 2 years ago. the hall of mirrors still echoes
stephenfosterkane: Yam - do a search on "iwi" and "foreshore" ;-)
stephenfosterkane: incredible picture in the book, Cat, taken at the signing. it was 'way past SRO!
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karmacoma Yamamoto: Maoris have done better than most, for sure, somebody actually got an attack of consciennce somewhere in there
Tweeno's Paradise: Was that before the hydrogen tests in the S. Pacific?
karmacoma Yamamoto: Actually the PC trend in NZ began about 1850ish
Dexter Fong: Ilan: it'l take a few days but *will* send it
cease: i love the way they blend the old (ralph spoilsport) with the new, radio now crew
cease: made in america from americans
cease: ralph, he's always with us
Tweeno's Paradise: We own the idea, of the idea of America.
karmacoma Yamamoto: Thy can have it
stephenfosterkane: i think if you read the history of NZ, the Treaty of Watangi and check the festivities of Watangi Day, that it is 'way different than the US or even Australia. And in Australia, the British governors strove mightily to protect the Aboriginies. The convicts were not quite so gentle...
Dexter Fong: Cat: Realize it's subjective, but many listenings to Bride have endeared it to me
Bubba's Brain: Pork?
Dexter Fong: Not now dear
cease: its the only one of the three with that level of narrative hooks and nasa matress'd depth we expect from their original work
Tweeno's Paradise: Ya gotta love how Bush and company usurped "all that is good and holy" about the U.S.
Bubba's Brain: No Waiter, I said I wanted "A FORK" on the table.....
llanwydd: I know the Austrailian aboriginals have been nuked. It's a sad story
Tweeno's Paradise: BIG cajones.
cease: yes dex, i was planning to listne now but couldnt find it
stephenfosterkane: the Maori did get the short end of the stick, but they have specific rights in NZ today and they can and do make a fuss when crossed
karmacoma Yamamoto: well i have to sleep
Dexter Fong: Not now dear, I just waxed it
stephenfosterkane: sleep well, Yam
karmacoma Yamamoto: work in am and all that
Tweeno's Paradise: Bye Yam.
karmacoma Yamamoto: nytol
Bubba's Brain: Nite, Yam.
||||||||| Catherwood says "11:05 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs karmacoma Yamamoto by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
cease: invent new characters, then kill them (boom) or kill off old characfers (bride) both have that stench of eulogy about them
cease: yammy
stephenfosterkane: Tween -- more than Iraq, I regret most what Bush has done to our reputation in the world, which is totally discredited it
Dexter Fong: Cat: I don't know that I'd take to much from that..you never know what they'll think up
Tweeno's Paradise: The myth of the strutting, self-confidant cowboy got just a little too out of hand.
llanwydd: I don't see that, Cat. In fact "Bride" brought old characters back to life
Tweeno's Paradise: cause they call us the Lone Star state doesn't mean that we have to always go it alone.
Dexter Fong: One thing I loved about it was the large number of catch phrases and punch lines they recycled, usually with the original voice
llanwydd: Tween, are you a native or a transplant?
Tweeno's Paradise: It'll be years before I get everything on Bride. I'm still hearing things in the ones from 25-30 years ago.
cease: of course, there are no bad firediscs. only comparisons
Tweeno's Paradise: Transplant (got here as fast as I could). Grew up in D.C. area. Lived in other states as well.
Dexter Fong: Yes =))
cease: yes, but rockly and bradshaw get killed at the end
Dexter Fong: Cat: It *does* seem that way =)
cease: and nick definitely seems sunset bound, although with hound
cease: a female woman drinking out of a trophy
Dexter Fong: Sound reasoning
Tweeno's Paradise: Well, show her up!
llanwydd: I've only been in NY for thirteen years, myself. Born in NJ
Tweeno's Paradise: Reasonable enough...
Dexter Fong: Ya cheap whore
cease: mr holmes will see you now, you cheap hoor
stephenfosterkane: which exit?
llanwydd: ah, yes. I forgot about that
Dexter Fong: Sartre Street
Tweeno's Paradise: Mountainside's rather pretty.
cease: there's a mrs python at the door
Tweeno's Paradise: Kafka Lane.
Dexter Fong recoils in horror from Mrs. Python
llanwydd: I was born in Hackensack and grew up in a town called Hackettstown
cease: i hear lois died. no, that was superman.
stephenfosterkane: lois just went beserk
Tweeno's Paradise: As long as she doesn't get mongoosed.
Dexter Fong: She gets mongoosed once...shame on you
cease: driving like a fool back tro hackensack, drinkin his dinner from a paper sack
cease: he said i gotta meet a joker and i'll be right back
Dexter Fong won't get mongoosed again
Tweeno's Paradise: Fan of Billy Joel, LL?
cease: who?
stephenfosterkane: LOL
llanwydd: who needs a house there?
Tweeno's Paradise: Movin' Out is a pretty good song.
cease: she's digitally winking at me, dr. winkydink
Dexter Fong: Tom Waits Cat?
stephenfosterkane: summer highland falls, too
cease: i think he's in town. or maybe just his album
cease: time waits for no stone
stephenfosterkane: tom waits for no man
Tweeno's Paradise: The Cat In The Sack? Isn't that a Mr. Roger's tune?
Bubba's Brain: Tom Waits for no one...
Bubba's Brain: Geez, even when I'm original, I'm not original.
stephenfosterkane would like to see the EEGs for that sequence...
llanwydd: Hackensack is a pretty dismal city. I was there earlier this year. It's kind of half slum half affluent, depending on the neighborhood
Dexter Fong: Bubba originates from and undisclosed bunker
stephenfosterkane: gee, like Bridgeport, eh?
Bubba's Brain: EEG! A Brainwave!
cease: doc teck land
Dexter Fong is waiting for the big one, the 7th brainwave
stephenfosterkane used to process EEGs from subjects exposed to infrasound, lead and carbon monoxide
llanwydd: Hackettstown is nicer. And closer to Pennsylvania
Bubba's Brain: Ride them brainwaves, surfer dude!
Merlyn: I'm off, I might be back later...
Dexter Fong: Klok: all at once or ?
||||||||| At 11:16 PM, Merlyn vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
Tweeno's Paradise: Anybody from Cal here? Looks like the west coast is getting a bit flakey, seismically speaking...
stephenfosterkane: no, separately
Bubba's Brain: Who was that masked man.
cease: van is on the coast
Tweeno's Paradise: Next time, Merl.
cease: by merl
stephenfosterkane: oh, all the left-wingers out there are just getting over-agitated. will calm down in mid-Nov., Tweeny
llanwydd: I've driven through Bridgeport. Stopped to use a payphone. That's all I remember
llanwydd: That and it's on 95
Dexter Fong: Bubbaa: I remember riding Medulla Oblingata in the Sechelles part of the far flung Islands of langerhamn....great waves
Tweeno's Paradise: Went to school in Buck's County, PA. Quaker high school.
cease: hall and Oats Jr. High?
stephenfosterkane: yeah, that happens. happens to me in Greensboro. suddenly, I'm driving thru Mebane and no recollection of I-85 in between. Freaky. Probably UFOs or something
Dexter Fong: Tween: I heard when you graduated. they shot you from cannons
stephenfosterkane: right near the Jessica Savich restarurant?
Bubba's Brain: Here in Indiana, ifs more like Haulin' Oats....
stephenfosterkane used to live in Warminster...
Tweeno's Paradise: 2 years in a military school near Baltimore. 2 years in a Quaker school in PA. Why would I be confused?
llanwydd: My dad's from PA and most of his relatives. So I know the place. Ever heard of Askam?
stephenfosterkane: Tween -- LOL
Tweeno's Paradise: Nope no know Askam. Newtown.
Dexter Fong: Ilan: Nope...ever heard of Lewistown
Tweeno's Paradise: You from Hoosierland, Bubba?
stephenfosterkane: NY?
Bubba's Brain: Bloomington.
cease: carl Lewis has a town? is that like wiltville?
Dexter Fong: Who is your Vaterland HerrBubba?
stephenfosterkane: Lewiston used to have a bridge to Canada, before Robert Moses tore it down for the power plant
Dexter Fong: Cat: Jerry Lewistown
Bubba's Brain: Hoosier Vater?
llanwydd: lewistown? I know there is one in Maine
stephenfosterkane: Ein Volk...
llanwydd: or is it lewiston
Dexter Fong: Klok: You'll be much relieved to hear they got a new one
Tweeno's Paradise: Lived in Bloomington & Nashville when I was a real little kid, moved to D.C. for about 20 years, and then came back for another 15 until '95 when I moved to TX.
Dexter Fong: Bridge that is
cease: you like dc, tween?
stephenfosterkane remembers an old local '50s soap opera on some Buffalo station that opened with a shot of the road down the hill to the Lewiston bridge
Tweeno's Paradise: Born in the great state of Floridia.
Tweeno's Paradise: There are good and bad things about D.C.
Dexter Fong: Klok: Tv yes?
Tweeno's Paradise: Lived in the 'burbs. My Dad taught at GWU.
stephenfosterkane: yep
cease: i'm visiting dc next spring
Bubba's Brain: Ah.... we were around at some of the same times then... In B-town and environs that is.
Dexter Fong: Wow! Cannot not even remember such a thing
cease: what is all this animal imagery? does it have any meaning?
Tweeno's Paradise: The Mall is very pretty around cherry blossom time. Be sure to visit the new native american museum on the Mall.
Dexter Fong: Cat: I'd tell you but the cat has my tongue
cease: tell her to give it back
Dexter Fong: But Cat, the cat is you?
stephenfosterkane: Dex - I would say 1957-60 sometime. Definitely a local production, Buffalo station, afternoon. Watched it on my uncles's console TV. The one with the wire recorder...
Bubba's Brain: The walrus is Paul.
Tweeno's Paradise: I am the Matador!
Bubba's Brain: Rat-tat-tat-ador....
Dexter Fong: Klok: Wire recorder...an original Chief Webcor?
cease: i am the bulldog
Dexter Fong: Bow Wow Wow
cease: an excellent sauce
Tweeno's Paradise: Ku Kuka Chuke
Dexter Fong: Let's use a Nuke
cease: or a nike
Bubba's Brain: Lets drop the big one and see what happens.....
Tweeno's Paradise: It's a fluke...
Dexter Fong: Well not bad...but not good...this time were going for haiku
stephenfosterkane: Dex - I honestly don't remember what brand. It was a big box with TV, wire recorder, record changer and AM/FM/Shortwave/Long Wave radio in a cherry wood cabinet
llanwydd: just drop it in a safe place
Tweeno's Paradise: I.U. is a pretty cool university. Truly excellent music school. People compare it to Juliard.
Dexter Fong: A time vault
Bubba's Brain: Yup,
Bubba's Brain sings "I remember, doin' the Time Vault..." then remembers the actual words.
Tweeno's Paradise: Worked at the Little Nashville Opry for about 7 1/2 years. Lisa Germano & Kenny Aronoff played in the house band for a while.
Tweeno's Paradise: Got a real Nashville, TN education.
Dexter Fong: Well, I must move my car so I'll say goodnight all
cease: by dex
Tweeno's Paradise: Bye Dex.
Dexter Fong: "Goodnight All"
llanwydd: Is the "little opry" anything like the "grand" one?
Bubba's Brain: Much smaller.
llanwydd: goodnight, some
stephenfosterkane: Tween - you worked with lisa germano
stephenfosterkane: nite Dex
Tweeno's Paradise: 2000 seat hall. Got to work with some pretty serious Nashville people. More contemporary than Grand Ole. Waylon, Harris, people like that.
Tweeno's Paradise: Mellecamp got her from our house band.
Bubba's Brain: Between 1984 and now, the only time spent away from Bloomington IN was in Nashville TN.... interesting intersection of our lives....
stephenfosterkane: cool
Bubba's Brain: What did you do for the Opry?
stephenfosterkane: she has gotten very dark as solo act; I liked her in Mellencamp's video
Tweeno's Paradise: Unfortunately, Nashville has turned into a music factory. One of the reasons I like Austin.
Bubba's Brain: She makes me want to wear dresses... um... er... strike that.
Tweeno's Paradise: Soundmixer, house & monitors.
Bubba's Brain: Ihated Nashville.
Tweeno's Paradise: Austin has much greater diversity and originality.
llanwydd: R.E.M. recorded an album in Bloomington. "Life's Rich Pageant". Best album of the 1980s
Bubba's Brain: I was in Audio Tech program at IU Music School, went to Nashville to get work, and came back to find work.
Tweeno's Paradise: Really, didn't know that about R.E.M. Will have to check it out. You know what studio?
llanwydd: I dont remember, tween
Tweeno's Paradise: Well, Bubba... We should keep in touch. I have't done any mixing here, but I might.
Bubba's Brain: I heard stories about Michael Stipe going to parties around B-Town on acid during the recording of that....
Bubba's Brain: It was in Mellencamp's studio.
Tweeno's Paradise: Bloomington can indeed be a party town.
stephenfosterkane: Mellencamp and Stipe are great in the Concert for Change. Some incredible impromptu groupings.
Tweeno's Paradise: Ah, Belmont Mall. Nice facility, from the sound of the recordings. Never been there.
Bubba's Brain: Yes, too much so for my taste.
Bubba's Brain: Never been there either, for all my time here.
Tweeno's Paradise: I left everything 'cept beer behind around 1980.
Bubba's Brain: Ever get down to Homegrown studios in B-Town?
Tweeno's Paradise: Yeah, stopped by once.
stephenfosterkane: ...say goodbye to the landlord for me...sons of bitches always bore me...
stephenfosterkane: bubba/tween - have you seen Heartworn Highways?
Tweeno's Paradise: It's Mr. Fosterfreeze!
Bubba's Brain: Well, that was what became Lodestone...
cease: yes i want to see that. sundance channel?
cease: franken sez go to tis website but it doesnt appear to be broadcast from there
Tweeno's Paradise: Nope. Falling From Grace (Mellencamp) isn't bad.
Bubba's Brain: No, SFK, what about it?
stephenfosterkane: yes, Cat; dunno if they are repeating it. they ought to just play it over and over until Nov. 2
cease: you have the channel or watch online?
stephenfosterkane: it's Earle, van Zant, etc. in the early days, in the '70s, in Nashville. amazing stuff
cease: not an option here
Tweeno's Paradise: Earle's gone through some changes. His new album sounds pretty good.
llanwydd: Well I moost be chekking out for the eefning. I'll see ye next thirsty
stephenfosterkane: cat - neighbors taped it for me Monday night. concert ran over live; tape is oout of sequence; haven't checked the end, but suspect I'll need to re-tape if I want correct one
Tweeno's Paradise: See ya, LL.
stephenfosterkane: nite Ilan
cease: llan
Bubba's Brain: Nite, Il
stephenfosterkane: Tween -- I have a set of stuff from Heartworn followed by Clarke/Van Zandt Live at the Bluebird Cafe and then some CD's Earle doing "Christmas in Washington" with Harris doing backup that still makes my hair stand on end.
stephenfosterkane: oops
stephenfosterkane:

stephenfosterkane: is it off yet?
stephenfosterkane: ah
cease: say hello to the unknown
Tweeno's Paradise: Sounds like quite a band.
cease: apart
Tweeno's Paradise: Ricky Scaggs came to the LNO with George Grantham of Poco on drums. Me like. This from a guy who likes Yes' Relayer album.
stephenfosterkane: cat - I will check listings and see if it's repeated. I only came upon it by chance. However, I expect it will come out on DVD, VHS, CD, etc. in much better form than I have. It's 5 1/2 hours long, so it's SLP tape.
stephenfosterkane: Scaggs is no slouch in the Bluegrass dept.
stephenfosterkane: Dolly Parton is returning to her roots, too, quite good music lately
Tweeno's Paradise: If there is such a thing as Bluegrass Rock, Scaggs' "Highways and Heartbreaks".
Tweeno's Paradise: Never met Parton. 2000 seats aren't going to pay her band.
Bubba's Brain: I like what EmmyLou has been doing recently, too. I'm a big fan of Allison Krauss.
cease: so obviously this isnt webcast. so why does franken say, if yo dont get the sundance channel, go to their website?
Tweeno's Paradise: Krauss has real talent. She's going to be around for a while.
Tweeno's Paradise: Red Dirt Girl is a very fine effort indeed.
stephenfosterkane: Alison Krauss/Union Station and even more recently Nickel Creek really push the line; of course, Bela Fleck has simply soared right on past and into UFO territory...;-)
Bubba's Brain: She started out around B-Town and environs. I came across an old 8-Track master from her at Homegrown.
Tweeno's Paradise: Fleck. I'm not _worthy_. Don't get me started on Fleck.
stephenfosterkane: Krauss was inducted into GLO at 16 or something
||||||||| It's 11:50 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| llanwydd - dead from The Plague
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Tweeno's Paradise: No joke, Krauss recorded at Homegrown? Too cool. Probably too young for my stint at the Opry.
stephenfosterkane: she could be short, fat and dirt ugly and I'd still worship her, and she ain't none of them...
Tweeno's Paradise: What year?
stephenfosterkane: OK, the short hand is pointing somewhere and the long hand is somewhere else and KWD, having writ, must MoveOn.org...
Bubba's Brain: I haven't heard the tape -- Its an 8-track half inch which they don't have a working player to play it back on anymore.
cease: by klok
stephenfosterkane: goodnight all
cease: might as well mosey along
||||||||| At 11:52 PM, stephenfosterkane vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
Bubba's Brain: Nite
cease: or mouse
cease: cat too.
Tweeno's Paradise: Yer right. Mickey's hand is pointing to the bedroom. Until last time, again.
Bubba's Brain: Me too....
Bubba's Brain: Nytol
||||||||| At 11:54 PM, Bubba's Brain vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
||||||||| It's 12:00 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Tweeno's Paradise - dead from dengue fever
||||||||| cease - dead from measles
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood walks in wearing his pyjamas, yawns, and mumbles "It's midnight here in New York city"...then he falls over and starts snoring loudly..
||||||||| It's 12:30 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Dexter Fong - dead from measles
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:32 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."


The Evening's Participants:
Bubba's Brain
cease
Dexter Fong
Dr. Headphones
Elayne
karmacoma Yamamoto
llanwydd
Merlyn
Napoleon Brand D
stephenfosterkane
Tweeno's Paradise
Zinger
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