A Firesign Chat
12/09/2021




Archive

||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:32 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for December 09, 2021 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Catherwood leads Rufus_T_Firetween inside, makes a note of the time (3:00 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 2 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| New notice: '** There will be a Firesign Theatre/US Plus Stimulcast starting at 9pmET this evening. **
Warm-up music begins around 8:40pmET
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||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 3 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 3:15 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Rufus_T_Firetween - dead from The Plague
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood leads Rufus_T_Firetween inside, makes a note of the time (3:00 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
||||||||| Catherwood says "3:00 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs Rufus_T_Firetween by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
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||||||||| A time machine materializes at 3:00 PM and Rufus_T_Firetween sashays out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
||||||||| Catherwood sneaks into the room, and intones "Announcing 'DJTweeny', also known as 'Nancy' -- the time is 3:00 PM" -- then he slowly retires back into the vestibule...
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||||||||| New notice: '** There will be a Firesign Theatre/US Plus Stimulcast starting at 9pmET this evening. **
Warm-up music begins around 8:40pmET
You can join the streams now (NO AUDIO YET - just a chance for everybody to get connected)
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||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
Currently playing: warm up music – STEVE MILLER-ABACADABRA
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||||||||| llanwydd enters at 3:00 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and rushes off to the Chapeau Manger.
llanwydd: Hi Tween
Rufus_T_Firetween: Hey llan
llanwydd: great choice of music, tween
llanwydd: I hope le Chat joins us
Rufus_T_Firetween: Steve Miller is good hee fee
llanwydd: is that like hi fi?
Rufus_T_Firetween: yes :)
llanwydd: lol
Rufus_T_Firetween: a term we use at RFD ;)
llanwydd: aha
||||||||| Catherwood tosses another cheese log on the fire and intones, "If you want to keep the cornstarch off your mukluks this season, buy a hoodie or a sweatshirt at the Firesign corner Cafepress store."
llanwydd: by the way, tween, what are dishnuts? you dont have to crack them, do you?
Rufus_T_Firetween: haha
Rufus_T_Firetween: a bunch of ham radio peopl who are also into 'satellite dishes'
llanwydd: cool
Rufus_T_Firetween: *people
||||||||| Catherwood escorts Cease into the room, accepts three dimes as a gratuity, grumbles something about 3:00 PM, then departs.
Rufus_T_Firetween: these days we just use the internet
llanwydd: always wanted a ham radio when I was a kid. closest I got was a shortwave
Rufus_T_Firetween: Yo Cease
llanwydd: Howdy Cease
Cease: Hey
Rufus_T_Firetween: shortwave = ham
Rufus_T_Firetween: 'amateur radio'
||||||||| Beet waltzes in at 3:00 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
Beet: Hi, folks.
Rufus_T_Firetween: Yo Beet
llanwydd: not mine. you couldnt talk on it but you could hear alll over the world
Beet: Howdy Dr Tween
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
WELCOME TO THE FIRESIGN CHAT
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Cease: It's the Lonesome Beet-tiik
llanwydd: Hey Beet
Beet: Yo, Dr Cease
Cease: Is this Steve Miller?
Beet: Hi Llan
llanwydd: yes it is
Rufus_T_Firetween: yes Cease
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, December 09, 2021 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!"
llanwydd: got something on the stove brb
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
Currently playing: Firesign Theatre's “I THINK WE'RE ALL BOZOS ON THIS BUS”
128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u
check out BOZOS at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=bozos-rv
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Beet: My fave
Cease: Yeah, I love this album
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about “BOZOS” at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=bozos-ln
Rufus_T_Firetween: I like the bits you did comparing it to the Worlds Fairs Cease
||||||||| Bill Sprawl pokes his head in through the window and shouts "MARCHING TO SHIBBOLETH! Click to order!"
Cease: I just used the "vegetables are green" line in my new collage about Brautigan.
Rufus_T_Firetween: kewl
Cease: should have it finished by next week. very Firesonian dude. they were quite fond of him
Cease: yeah, i was sure they'd been to a world's fair, but actually, not really
Cease: ossman was 2 when he attended the 39 world's fair and the other guys never did
Rufus_T_Firetween: Ossman didn't make it to NYC?
Cease: this riff is a rip off of a disneyland ride
Cease: no, he'd moved to LA when the 64 fair happened. proc was there, but maybe not interested
Rufus_T_Firetween: so it was you who snuck into the fairgrounds?
Rufus_T_Firetween: trying to remember your story about tat
Cease: no, that was air ship al. he lived next door to it
Rufus_T_Firetween: ah yeah, Al
Cease: i was on a tour of trhe east coast and spent a few days in nyc.
Rufus_T_Firetween: great story
Rufus_T_Firetween: we should replay that sometime
Cease: indeed
Beet: He is getting the unintended joke of animated characters.
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood pipes up: "3:00 PM and late as usual, it's InTheWood, just back from New York."
Cease: Hi Woody
Rufus_T_Firetween: Hi InTheWood
Beet: Hey, Wood
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about “BOZOS” at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=bozos-ln
InTheWood: Hi, all.
Beet: The sonic engineering on this album really was and is revolutionary.
InTheWood: I always pictured Terry-Thomas as 'Civilized Man'.
||||||||| Nick Danger sneaks in and whispers "Get the scuttlebutt on Box of Danger here, whatever that means..."
Cease: and it was done in quad too. i'd love to hear that.
Cease: good one, wood
Beet: It was amazing.
Cease: i'm going to use this in the brautigan collage too
Rufus_T_Firetween: Beet: The sonic engineering on this album really was and is revolutionary. << as much attention to detail as any Parson album
Rufus_T_Firetween: *Parsons
InTheWood: They were the rock stars of audio comedy.
Beet: I wish someone had been filming for a documentary like they did for the Beatles.
Rufus_T_Firetween: THe XM Radio series has them filmed witting around a table. Great to see the guys in action
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about FIRESIGN XM RADIO PERFORMANCES at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/xmradio/
Cease: well, actually someone did. or more than someone. merlyn, one of the founders of the chat, flew out to LA to video their whole XM series
InTheWood: I say live it, or live with it!
Beet: Tat was very revealing.
Rufus_T_Firetween: exactly, Cease
Cease: several of us filmed their seattle shows and i know many more have been fillmed, including by the guys themselves
llanwydd: thats really cool, cat
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Rufus_T_Firetween: speaking of video collections ^^
Beet: The closest we get for the main albums are the pictures in "Big Book of Plays."
Cease: i inadvertanly saw a clip from the new beatles thing on youtube today. looks greeat
||||||||| Catherwood enters and asks "Is there anythynge you want? By that I mean Anythynge You Want To, Shakespeare's Lost paperback Comedie in pre-electronic book form!"
llanwydd: how can you be wrong about a comet?
Cease: maybe it's not a very good cleanser
||||||||| Catherwood enters and asks "Is there anythynge you want? By that I mean Anythynge You Want To, Shakespeare's Lost paperback Comedie in pre-electronic book form!"
InTheWood: Comets will sneak up on you.
llanwydd: lol
Cease: i have a fair amount of vid of them performing, though not high quality
Cease: proc/berg did a hilarious parody of the Comet ad, featuring Kahoutek, on their TV show This is great radio to watch.
llanwydd: I love to watch radio
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 3:00 PM and residualecho steps out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
DJTweeny: hi hi hi echo echo echo
Beet: Hi, echo.
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about “BOZOS” at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/media/media.php?item=bozos-ln
Cease: hey echo
residualecho: Surfing the English Channels have only one station
InTheWood: Echoooo
residualecho: What? what? what?
InTheWood: Going to Greece?...
residualecho: And fry this egg on drugs
residualecho: Did I detect echoes of documentary talk?
residualecho: It seems to me that there are so many hours of performance and interviews it's almost more of an editing job than anything else
residualecho: Most of it would be obtaining rights to existing material
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** NEW FIRESIGN RELEASE!! ** - THE FIRESIGN THEATRE LIVE AT THE MAGIC MUSHROOM - Paperback Book + DVD-ROM Disc >> http://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/firesale/firesale.php
Cease: i know better than anyone (except, maybe, taylor) as i spend many hour a week going througn the vastness of firesign to make my collages
residualecho: But those who hold rights don't seem to me likely to be stingy with them
Rufus_T_Firetween: You and Taylor doing a project together would be pretty cool :)
Cease: there is some guy named Luke Polling supposedly making a film about them. there is a cornell prof writing a book.
Cease: i worry that if these things actually happen, it will be after the remainiing guys have died
Cease: no, tween.
Beet: They really captured the carnival atmosphere.
Cease: i have little experience with carnivals
InTheWood: Close B, close mode.
Beet: I went to many carnivals as a kid.
residualecho: Close "B" clothes mode
InTheWood: Right.
residualecho: I went to plenty of supermarket parking lot carnivals, in the suburbs of Disneyland, in which I grew up, as a park brat
residualecho: rusty buckets with cheap carnies operating them
Beet: I liked the weird sideshow attractions like two-headed cows and bearded ladies.
Cease: i can't say i've been to No carnivals, but in the suburbs of No. really never insterested me
InTheWood: What a brilliant and understanding mix of theme-park culture and computer/hacker culture.
residualecho: Marin County Fair was always plenty of fun
Beet: amen
residualecho: And these days (well, before Covid) we used to go to all sorts of fairs, apart from Renaissance (which the four or five were early attendees of)
Rufus_T_Firetween: nice use of tremelo
residualecho: Like "Maker Faire"
Cease: ossman's first wife was very involved in that fair, as you probably know, echo
Beet: Brilliant stuff.
Cease: i went to the german xmas fair her in van last week.
residualecho: Was that Oona? David was the host of a marathon broadcast from one of the very first faire's
Cease: not so much a fair as a place to hawk german goods and food, also very good hot drinks
Rufus_T_Firetween: Oona is the widow of Austin
Cease: no, oona was austin's 2nd wife. i forgert ossman's first wife's name, but they had 2 kids
Cease: only x wife i know is tiny, who showed up on sunday chat.
Beet: A masterpiece.
Cease: indeed, beeet
Rufus_T_Firetween: Glad Tiny showed up, because practically nobody else did lol
||||||||| New notice: '** WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT!! **
Now playing: XM Radio broadcast “MARK TIME – THE TIME PIRATES”
128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or 16k at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u
Free Downloads!! at http://www.firesigntheatrelegacy.com/xmradio/
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residualecho: Disneyland fireworks could be seen from my front lawn, they were the sign of curfew at 9pm. The idea that the first four albums were a complete unit signified by the label, "The Fireworks" has become the binder for the first four
Cease: Merl was a writer on these shows
Cease: true, tween.
Cease: it's not often we have more people here than i have fingers on one hand.
Rufus_T_Firetween: Hope Merl is OK. Have heard anything from him. Last I heard he had a stroke last July :(
Rufus_T_Firetween: *Haven't
Rufus_T_Firetween: no responses to emails
Cease: very interesting,echo
llanwydd: I dont think the first four should be considered a unit
Cease: why not, llan?
Cease: they lads do. their big book of plays is those albums, considered as one story
llanwydd: well, especially since the first album has nothing in common with the rest
Cease: no, the character in electrician is reborn as babe boomer in the 2nd album, etc.
residualecho: The three sketches stand alone, but Electrician holds up as a complete story, which transitions to HCYB quite well
Cease: they tried to tie their stuff together very concsiously from the beginning
residualecho: Martian Space Party was an abrupt break from that mode
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about FIRESIGN XM RADIO PERFORMANCES at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/xmradio/
Cease: extremely dulll radio. lol
Rufus_T_Firetween: The first album begins with the sound of the wind, and Bozos ends with the sound of the wind. I'm pretty sure that was on purpose
Cease: definitely, tween
Rufus_T_Firetween: and there are repeating themes through the first 4
Cease: i hadnt heard that in a while, tween. thanks for playing it.
Rufus_T_Firetween: Your idea :)
residualecho: I don't know if I'd ever heard these Mark Time episodes. Siriusly
Beet: This is very funny.
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Read about FIRESIGN XM RADIO PERFORMANCES at >> https://firesigntheatrelegacy.com/xmradio/
Rufus_T_Firetween: just happened to fit the time
Cease: Mark is in Bozos, so this is very confluent
Rufus_T_Firetween: So great to be able to see the lads sitting around a table working together
Rufus_T_Firetween: Thanks to those who recorded the XM video
residualecho: I take it most of us watched Get Back, which is what sparked discussion about a Firesign Doc
Cease: i havent seen it yet. will do eventually
residualecho: It's an odd era to have documented so scrupulously
llanwydd: yeah, thanks for playing Bozos, Tween
llanwydd: great album
Rufus_T_Firetween: again, Cat's idea :)
llanwydd: I have not seen get back
residualecho: They were pretty much at a dead halt creatively and trying to work out where to go next, so they decided to crank out a load of songs which found their way to Let it Be and Abbey Road
Rufus_T_Firetween: Cat's the producer, I'm just the engineer
llanwydd: it was cool to see the teaser footage though
llanwydd: very clear picture
residualecho: So, watching them make it up from scratch was pretty amazing
llanwydd: but abbey road was so much better than let it be
residualecho: Yes, it was
Rufus_T_Firetween: Alan Parsons was 2nd (as a teenager) to George Martin on Abbey Road
||||||||| Chick Lambert fades in and says: "I have no idea who this Friedstein Theatre is, but they 're honing in on my territory over at Duke of Madness Motors. Give 'em the what for, Storm!" "RUFF! RUFF!"
residualecho: Get Back era is not my favorite era by a long shot
Cease: i bought a recent version of abbey road and made a couple of good collages out of them last year
Rufus_T_Firetween: the Let It Be release was the end of The Beatles :/
residualecho: But what got them together was the idea that they had to bang out new material that they could play live
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Beet: That was great.
InTheWood: Their live action was terrific.
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Currently playing: Cat Simril Ishikawa’s
“FREETIME WITH CATMAN – “TRANSPORTATION”
128k stream at: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny.m3u or at 16k: http://listen.ehhh.us:8000/tweeny16k.m3u
check out Cat's Collages at >> http://kurtericson.net/cat/
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residualecho: Most of the material from Let it Be was recorded before Abbey Road, so that was most of the last
Cease: i wonder what a 1-month subscription to the disney channel costs?
residualecho: Whose live action, Wood?
llanwydd: I wonder if you have to crack dishnuts with the plate
llanwydd: tweeny and I were discussing that earlier
Cease: austin's idea for the title and my name
residualecho: I think you can subscribe for $7.99 and cancel
Cease: i can afford that.
Beet: I'm pretty sure it's $7.99/month, Cat
residualecho: You may get tired of some of those earworms after a while
residualecho: But then you also get all that Marvel and Pixar and Disney stuff
residualecho: Get Back is close to 8 hours
||||||||| Chick Lambert fades in and says: "I have no idea who this Friedstein Theatre is, but they 're honing in on my territory over at Duke of Madness Motors. Give 'em the what for, Storm!" "RUFF! RUFF!"
llanwydd: didnt know that about let it be, echo. I thought it was their last gasp
residualecho: "And in the end..."
Cease: not interested in that
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 10 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
residualecho: As a 2D and 3D animation professional and former Imagineer, I'm practically required to be interested in all of that
Cease: i get a month of netflix for maybe a month a year or every 2 years. made 2-part collage out of fran lebowitz thing, some years ago, a collage based on bojack horseman
Beet: Very interesting profession, echo.
Cease: got free amazon with a purchase of something from them last month but very very little i want to watch.
residualecho: Growing up in Disneyland puts you on a rather guided path, if you draw at all
Cease: some interesting sciecne programmes and a good edie izzard concert. that;s about it
residualecho: I just refuse to watch cable. I like streaming because most of it is a bit more direct without paying middleman
Cease: most of what i read, watch, listen to is relavent to projects i'm working on or hoping to get inspiration from
Cease: i have 2 libraries within wlking distance thatr have exccellent video libraries, including brand new stuff and stuff i can get them to order so, why pay for stuff i can get for free?
residualecho: An advantage of living near civilization
Rufus_T_Firetween: not for free since you pay taxes for the library ;)
Cease: this is canada, echo
residualecho: I'm living in the boonies of Central CA, near the Monarch Butterfly Groves on the border with Pismo Beach
Rufus_T_Firetween: more like 'shared ownership'
Cease: you should visit
residualecho: Vancouver, compared to here, is quite civilized
Cease: taxes cover everything, tween.
residualecho: I love Young Guy, Motor Detective. Recontextualizing earlier work
residualecho: So much of Temporarily Humboldt County owes a debt to Stan Freberg's United States
residualecho: but loads more psychedelic
Rufus_T_Firetween: Cease: taxes cover everything, tween. << If they did, goverments wouldn't have to borrow money :P
Rufus_T_Firetween: but this is not a political discussion, this is The Firesign Chat :)
residualecho: Only the rich, get anything from taxes, as they socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
residualecho: If we got anything like culture from our taxes, it would raise serious hackles
Cease: true enough, tween
Beet: All are working to make rich people richer. Kinda like slaves.
llanwydd: catherwood, play us a serenade on the cittern.
||||||||| Catherwood rushes alongside llanwydd and asks "Did you want something?"
Cease: from before the beginning, the firesign were dedicated to liberating us
llanwydd: I rememeber bergman acknowledging (sic?) freeberg as an influence
residualecho: They were excited to record in the same studio (Columbia) where Freberg recorded the last nationally syndicated radio comedy show. They used the same door prop for sound effects
Rufus_T_Firetween: nice
Cease: they always acknowledge their influences.
llanwydd: thats really cool
residualecho: I first heard this station break on KRLA
residualecho: Like Bob and Ray
Cease: like newton, they know they stood on the shoulders of giants
llanwydd: dont we all
Rufus_T_Firetween: Capitol giving them unlimited studio time was certainly a huge factor
residualecho: Columbia
Cease: are you old enough to have heard the krla show, echo?
Rufus_T_Firetween: would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Austin was editing/mixing
residualecho: At 66? I heard them on KRLA KPFK, and KPPC
llanwydd: I dont think I have ever heard a radio station that began with K
Rufus_T_Firetween: Columbia, right
Cease: welll, yes and no. true it led to their wonderful albums, but at a loss of royalties which they later come to regret
residualecho: I'm 66 now, but in 1966, I was 11
llanwydd: then you were born during the eisenhower administration
Rufus_T_Firetween: I was 12 in '66
Cease: i do not recall listening to the first kpfk show though my freinds said we did. i was very anti astrology, and the whole burgeoning new age trip of the time
Rufus_T_Firetween: also an 'Eisenhower kid'
llanwydd: kennedy was president when I was born
Cease: i was first on radio in 65. i was 14.
residualecho: Disneyland opened on July 17, and I was born on April 17, 1955
residualecho: I discovered radio in 1965, when a Colorado Cousin visited and scanned the dials, and left me an AM/FM radio
Cease: i had been writing plays since i was 8 in 1959, even taught play writing for a couple of years in the early 60s, and when i heard the mushroom plays,i knew i had to follow them
residualecho: She'd iron her Cher-like hair.
Cease: my cousin opened the first radio station in my home town, yorkton, the year before i was born
Cease: so i have had a family connection to radio since pre-birth
Cease: lol
residualecho: Yeah, I was too young to be a hippie. When my friend and I heard the term "Teenybopper" we were sad because were weren't teens yet, being only 12
llanwydd: I used to listen to WOR every morning
Cease: i had a radio in the shape of a sputnik in maybe 58?
llanwydd: I used to call myself a post-hippie
residualecho: I grew up in a projection booth, so movies are a huge part of my life
llanwydd: reminds me of cinema paradiso
residualecho: So I need to feed my home cinema
Cease: i was more of a beat, which is more of an intellectual genre. you're Supposed to be highly literate. hippy was not a literacy based genre
residualecho: I was in 8th grade when all the FM radios were performing all the clues to the game, "Is Paul Dead?"
Cease: that's what made firesign kind of anti-hipppy, although they appreciated the audience
llanwydd: how literate do you have to be to read On the Road?
residualecho: "Beatniks" was a pejorative for "The Beat Generation"
||||||||| Catherwood accompanies Tweeny inside, makes a note of the time (3:00 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
Beet: I was a hippie but very clean cut to hide my identity.
llanwydd: I read that book in the Port Authority bus terminal in new york city
Cease: keroauc and pals were Profoundly literate.
residualecho: The Beatles name was a take off on Beats
residualecho: Have you seen Kerouac reading his work to Steve Allen noodling on the piano?
llanwydd: OtR was kind of a letdown for me because of all the hype
llanwydd: have not seen that
Beet: And a tribute to Buddy Holly's Crickets.
residualecho: Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test was how I backed into Kerouac and the Beats
Cease: i like the long hair (i moved back to very cold canada in 69, where i need all the hair i can get), the music, etc but always loathed astrology and the anti-intellectualism of the hippies was always off-putting
llanwydd: the only clip I have seen of kerouac was on Firing Line with Buckley
Cease: yes echo. i used that inone of my collages
residualecho: Multi Valent references! My favorite! Crickets and Beatles and Beats, Oh My!
llanwydd: it was pretty interesting
residualecho: https://youtu.be/3LLpNKo09Xk
residualecho: https://youtu.be/3LLpNKo09Xk
llanwydd: thanks for the link
residualecho: It took a long time to show as sent, thought I was prohibited
Cease: not so much his books but kerouac's reading the story Visions of Neal and the 3 Stooges has an immense influence on me.
residualecho: I can't wait to hear the Mushroom tracks
residualecho: Their Goons references are readily acknowledged
Cease: https://s3.amazonaws.com/rfd-firesign/cat/grateful_beats-2.mp3
Cease: i heard and recorded some of them when they were first broadcast, echo
residualecho: The Beat that Bergman was involved with was Ginsberg or was it somebody else in The Pink Hotel?
Beet: I am very much looking forward to Mushroom collection.
Cease: some of the stuff you'll hear in the mushroom release will be from my collection
residualecho: I was only just starting to track them down. LA Radio was amazing. You can get a sense of it in Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
llanwydd: I have to agree about Topaz
Cease: ossman, naturally as a poet, was involved with gins. bergman had a very bad expereince with him in SF in 66
Cease: yes, i loved that flick, echo.
residualecho: And especially Bogdonavich's first movie, Targets, played a lot of KRLA and KHJ airchecks
Cease: proc's first wife was a freind of sharon tate and was invted over the night they were killed but thankfully didn't go
Cease: thart counter-history is something i reallyu appreciate
Cease: i'll have to look for that, echo
residualecho: Alternate histories
residualecho: Targets is about the Texas Tower shooter
residualecho: And it's a Roger Corman flick. It has Karloff in it because Corman said, "He owes me three days of shooting!"
Tweeny: which was 1966
llanwydd: somebody named grossman did the album cover for Dwarf
Tweeny: Univerity Of Texas Tower
Cease: remember when mass shootings were rare?
llanwydd: the dialogue rememded me of it
llanwydd: rminded
residualecho: Bergman's Yale Roommate was Robert Grossman
llanwydd: yes that was it
Tweeny: He was a former Army sharpshooter, picking off people two blocks away
Tweeny: what a nightmare
residualecho: Both Targets and OUATIH are big wish fulfillment fantasies
residualecho: The sound mix is awesome tonight
Cease: we just had a big commemorsation of a vast shooting at a montrewl univverrsity the other day. some guy hated womn so he walked into a university and killled many. that' still a commemorative event here.
Cease: in your country, if you wanted to commemorate mass shootings, you['d be doing that every day
residualecho: Schools in America seem like death traps. I got tired of shooting drills, and of having to keep an eye on borderline psychotic students
llanwydd: we never had shooting drills in my school
Cease: https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/tributes-to-victims-on-32nd-anniversary-of-montreal-s-polytechnique-mass-shooting-1.5694861
llanwydd: I remember air raid drills
residualecho: I've felt safer with my high school and college kids schooling via zoom, but the high schooler went back to high school for this, their first semester post covid
residualecho: but everybody is vaxxed and masked
Cease: maybe you folks are too young, but when i was a kid in LA in the mid-50s, we had to do drop drill every friday morning atr 10 AM
residualecho: I remember earthquake and nuke drills
residualecho: But as a teacher, I've had to supervise shooter drills
Cease: this is long before the cuban missile crisis. we were wwarned of incoming russian nukes to get under our desks. this is 57
residualecho: yeah, 61 through 63
residualecho: (for me)
llanwydd: I cant imagine doing a drop drill once a week
residualecho: Have you seen Atomic Cafe?
residualecho: Documentary culled entirely from progaganda footage, like "Duck and Cover"
llanwydd: I remember I could never get it right with the jacket
llanwydd: we had to sit against the wall and hold our coats over our heads
residualecho: Fun thing is, when Michael Moore wanted a cinematographer for "Bowling for Columbine", he hired the editing team from Atomic Cafe, who had never operated a camera.
Beet: We were under our desks for nukes,
residualecho: Were there no newspapers to cover your head with to make you more safe from the blast?
Cease: yes
llanwydd: lol
Cease: you're older than me, beet
Beet: Totally protected of course.
llanwydd: your desk is better protection from the h bomb
Tweeny: nothing like hiding from a nuclear blast under tinder, er, a wooden desk
Beet: Then the air raid siren every Friday at noon.
residualecho: We were drilled so well I remember everybody diving under the desk during the 1964 Aleutian Quake. It was pretty damned rough in the suburbs of Disneyland
residualecho: the quake, that is. Not talking about the mean streets of Disneyland
Tweeny: nowadays it The COVID!!
Cease: 10 AM in LA, beet
Tweeny: and wearing a mask is about as effective
residualecho: The Covid is much more scary
Tweeny: or you can take an experimenatl gene-altering vaccine
residualecho: The mask is way more effective than no mask. Don't get me started
Cease: the first death in canada from covid happened a few blocks from my house, accross the street from my local shopppng centre
Tweeny: OK lol
llanwydd: Ive had my shots
Tweeny: I waer a mask when I'm around people :)
llanwydd: I dont worry about the mask
residualecho: My mask protects you from me better than my mask protects me from you. It works if everybody wears them
Tweeny: llanwydd: Ive had my shots << /me puts a tag around llan's neck and sayd he's a good doggie
residualecho: I"ve had my shots, including booster, but I can still contract it and infect somebody else, even if I'm unlikely to actually get sick from it
Tweeny: *wear
llanwydd: lol
Tweeny: anyway, we could spend hours debating it ;)
residualecho: some things aren't debateable
Beet: I'm all shot up.
llanwydd: I wear it when Iam compelled
Cease: i was on that ferry in 1964
llanwydd: but I think I am safe without it
residualecho: I'm compelled to not want to infect anybody else
llanwydd: naturally
residualecho: That Orange Stain is likely to have exposed at least 500 people to it when he came down with it, testing positive 3 days before his debate with Biden
Cease: ido not understand anti-vax thinking. we were Delighted to get vaccinartions aginwst polio in the mid 50s
Tweeny: residualecho: I'm compelled to not want to infect anybody else << and yet, the fully vaccinated can still get it and spread it
||||||||| Captain Equinox flies in through the transom, landing on the bearskin rug. "Attention, solstice squad! After working a 12-hour day, I like to kick back and swill some juice out of a genuine Firesign coffee mug or Bear Whiz Beer stein!"
Cease: every one was required to get shots against diseases in those days and it was considered wondrous
llanwydd: I agree. everybody should get the vax
residualecho: You and I, vaccinated, are safe from coming down with symptoms or dying from it, but even though we're vaxxed, we can contract it and spread it while our system is fighting it off
Tweeny: Yeah, we could spend hours... it's not even a real vaccine
Tweeny: OK, the show is winding down
residualecho: It's as real a vaccine as any
llanwydd: so tween and echo you are saying the vax is not dependable?
residualecho: Too bad the misinformation spreads faster than the science
Cease: i know echo. i have a ticket to vegas i'm supposed to use by march, but am a bit scared to use it.
residualecho: I am not saying that
llanwydd: If I thought that, I would wear a mask all the time
Rufus_T_Firetween: I'll debate it with you another time :)
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Beet: Hospitalization and deaths are reduced.
residualecho: I'm saying that the way any vaccine works is to train your immune system. I can't get sick from measles, but if I'm exposed to it, I can infect somebody else. If they're not vaxxed, they can get really sick
llanwydd: he shot herself
Cease: bothg your country and mine are making travel increasinglyu difficult
residualecho: That's why I wear a mask all the time outside my house
Rufus_T_Firetween: Beet: Hospitalization and deaths are reduced. << Not in Israel, where majority of new hospitalizations are people who have been 'fully vaxxed'
residualecho: But there are new variants, and those hospitalizations are far less likely to be fatal
Rufus_T_Firetween: and the same applies to the States, where the new hospital cases are growing in the ones with the greatest vaccination rates
Cease: never tried opium.
Rufus_T_Firetween: Another time :)
residualecho: good night!
||||||||| residualecho is defenestrated just as the clock strikes 3:00 PM.
llanwydd: not even bubbl-o?
Cease: by echo
Rufus_T_Firetween: Thanks Cat, see you all next week...
Cease: well, i'm not dead yet, llan. maybe i can go to the local opium store and buy some
Beet: Nite, echo.
||||||||| Mayor P'nisnose strides up to the podium and speaks: "My fellow Armenians, if you have questions about exorcism, buy the new book "EXORCISM IN YOUR DAILY LIFE", now on sale. Incidentally, so is my vote."
llanwydd: lol
llanwydd: thanks tween and cat for another great thursday evening
InTheWood: I see you are a sailor...
Cease: i just recorded my part in my play (more than 50% if the play) today so hopefuly play will happen soon
Cease: withg llan, tween, others
llanwydd: great, cat!
||||||||| Captain Equinox flies in through the transom, landing on the bearskin rug. "Attention, solstice squad! After working a 12-hour day, I like to kick back and swill some juice out of a genuine Firesign coffee mug or Bear Whiz Beer stein!"
Cease: so i'm a happy cat.
Rufus_T_Firetween: ** Thanks for listening, all… See you next week, same Firetime, same Firestation...
Beet: Really enjoyed the offerings tonight. Thanks to everyone. Great stuff as usual, Dr Cease. Thanks for guiding, Dr Tween. G'Nite all.
llanwydd: next week, folks
||||||||| "3:00 PM? I'm late!" exclaims llanwydd, who then dashes out through the french doors and down through the flowerbeds.
InTheWood: Thanks, Tween!
Cease: you stilll here, wood? hope to see you here again
Cease: we do our best Every Week.
InTheWood: Cheers, and G'night, all!
||||||||| Catherwood says "3:00 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs InTheWood by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
DJTweeny: Until last time, again...
Cease: bye
||||||||| "Hey Cease!" ... Cease turns, and sees Bradshaw approching with the handcuffs, and is dragged away, screaming "it's only 3:00 PM, I don't have to go yet!"...
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 11 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| It's 11:15 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Tweeny - dead from intense demonic possession
||||||||| Beet - dead from Covid 19
||||||||| DJTweeny - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Rufus_T_Firetween - dead from the common cold
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:31 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."


The Evening's Participants:

Beet
Cease
DJTweeny
InTheWood
llanwydd
residualecho
Rufus_T_Firetween
Tweeny
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www.kurtericson.net/firesign
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/tributes-to-victims-on-32nd-anniversary-of-montreal-s-polytechnique-mass-shooting-1.5694861
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